# 88cm (Volker's fifth) **URL:** https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117 **Category:** Builds **Created:** [February 8, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117 "2024-02-08T09:52:12Z") **Posts on this page:** 20 **Page:** 1
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/1 "2024-02-08T09:52:12Z")
How much eFoil do you need? ![PXL_20240208_081637243_Original](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/a/5/a52c7c357edaf4765c745ca3bf07761e65ade6e7.jpeg) I tried it. Again. Almost same build like [99cm](https://foil.zone/t/99cm-volker-s-fourth/17000), just a bit smaller (-: Daughter wants a pink one with white dots (-: Some specs: 88cm \* 44cm \* 5,5cm (15 Liter) with [round hatch](https://www.ebay.de/itm/154788647256?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0&ssspo=kpPvn0aASKa&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=I5YdZWDQSte&var=454885635891&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY) Up to 12s4p 21700 (2 times 6S4P), usually Kids run on 6s [AS150](https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuFWQsV) connectors [Vesc six MKVI](https://trampaboards.com/1-x-vesc-6-mkvi---200-each--p-27529.html) & metr, cheap remote KISS as always. Nothing fancy. Cutting templates shorty 2 (119cm) VS 99cm VS 88cm ![PXL_20231104_113604954_Original](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/b/0/b0064392954b122a0dc5f9019af9192f1221d1de.jpeg) Rough shaping ![IMG_0868](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/9/6/96d079af33a82e237a2975aaa86bde388a191314.jpeg) Building the box: (thickest part 18 Layers 245g/m ~6mm thick) ![IMG_0862](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/9/d/9d21cfcc06171c5c206c0a44318933ec66980092.jpeg) Insert Box in Board: ![IMG_0865](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/2/5/25d09610fbcde55bc930cb35b6b0b3b9e7d21cdb.jpeg) More hotwire action & handsanding: ![PXL_20240127_143541216_Original](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/3/8/38bc54cd28976f7a99f94359d6966fdb66ce6d11.jpeg) Buildpics before topcoat: (3 Toplayer, 2 bottemlayer, and an additional layer above and below the box) ![IMG_0859](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/1/b/1bfa56767ceafe44540d09e85ca3dfb633218f5d.jpeg) Toplayer Glass ([Epoxy](https://www.ebay.de/itm/352520804893?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0&ssspo=IdUfxMcWQNy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=I5YdZWDQSte&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY) & [colour](https://shop.hp-textiles.com/shop/de/farbpasten-deckend-350g.html)) & final Topcoat with thickend Epoxy (2,5% [Thixotropiermittel](https://shop.hp-textiles.com/shop/de/Fuellstoffe-Additive/Thixotropiermittel/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAzoeuBhDqARIsAMdH14FvOWFCnhCcDT3VF_IYVqciiFFKrhbOdr3-ifwCgl5zLqWnXGokZIsaApjyEALw_wcB)) & colour ![IMG_0871](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/d/3/d3a84c6ef877cc09a332a65febc238a0c0ccb90a.jpeg) Cutout (6mm thick) Mastmount ![IMG_0876](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/d/b/dba2ac8c29c41891ea02b8f209e9b914a06c159a.jpeg) 119cm - 88cm - 99cm ![PXL_20240208_085823508_Original](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f843dc1c0ee6d2cf5bd419c08b034b4e19d480dd.jpeg) Waiting for EVA foam and registration number. Buildtime about 2 weeks, most time waiting for epoxy to cure. Future plan: Carbonmast, cheap 6384 and a simple [6.7 makerbase Vesc](https://a.aliexpress.com/_EGFkh5j). Just as proof of concept. ---
### Author: ![Jezza](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/2 "2024-02-08T10:28:07Z")
Thats awesome! I love the thin boards. ---
### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/3 "2024-02-08T10:49:28Z")
Really small but how do you keep the nose down at starts? Seems like a nightmare, i find my 115cm board hard enough! ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/4 "2024-02-08T10:51:29Z")
Should not be a problem. ---
### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/5 "2024-02-08T10:56:27Z")
Maybe i’m just too stiff… Technique tips appreciated😉 I guess the stab can be turned to lessen the effect 🙃 ---
### Author: ![Jezza](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/6 "2024-02-08T12:43:53Z")
> [@Larsb](#): > > Maybe i’m just too stiff… Technique tips appreciated​😉 How early are you standing up? If you are an adult of average size, you basically want your shoulders above the nose so that the board is very close to nose in the water at start… ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/7 "2024-02-08T13:17:27Z")
No way to start a small board like that. Shoulders above the boardnose isnt far enough. My Sternum is above the nose of my 99cm. On this board, i guess its the bellybutton 🤪 ---
### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/8 "2024-02-08T14:09:24Z")
This is exactly what i mean, on my 115cm shortboard the upper body is mostly hanging in the air during starts, just a small throttle change gets me a nosedive. On 88cm i’d be having to sit on the front edge or something like this😃 ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/9 "2024-02-08T14:20:17Z")
Starting with 99cm 🥴 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/v_GTwAR3Qsw/hqdefault.jpg "99cm board, 99A motorcurrent start") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_GTwAR3Qsw) ---
### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb) #### Post date: [February 8, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/10 "2024-02-08T14:55:20Z")
Still you lift quite ok. I really should lose some weight 🥓 🍖 🥩 😃 ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [February 23, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/11 "2024-02-23T18:54:45Z")
![IMG_0937](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/8/d/8d0bbf4ffd94a081ba42824a52bb000a81ace893.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [February 29, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/12 "2024-02-29T18:52:14Z")
New board needs a matching remote. Of course a [BREmote](https://foil.zone/t/bremote-diy-remote/17474) ![1000019304](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/0/a/0a2d9eb6a0f75fffbb32a67dd380a1f949bf12c8.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [March 16, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/13 "2024-03-16T20:54:04Z")
Projekt Carbonmast final stage. More work than expected 🙄 ![1000019677](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/3/9/39fc690f0e6d433374ca1ea48b16abf251f25956.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![windego](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@windego](https://foil.zone/u/windego) #### Post date: [March 16, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/14 "2024-03-16T21:08:09Z")
Real nice. The fillet seems a bit small to me. But thats only a gut feeling comparing the big fillers on most commercial masts. ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [March 16, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/15 "2024-03-16T22:56:40Z")
Fillet ist 12 small layers in the Corner and additional 18 bigger layers 245g/m² I hope, its enough ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [March 16, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/16 "2024-03-16T23:03:48Z")
![1000019648](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/0/6/068b03f918dd6d1595b66c8255ea0eda6031989a.jpeg) This is the cut off part of the fillet before sanding ![1000019688](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/1/5/15e77324f716a34493f982e33b7d75e10591fbf1.jpeg) ---
### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb) #### Post date: [March 17, 2024, 7:04am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/17 "2024-03-17T07:04:50Z")
How much does it weigh and length? I thought about trying a mast build eventually since they are so ridiculously priced. What did you find most challenging? ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [March 17, 2024, 7:30am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/18 "2024-03-17T07:30:06Z")
Mast 80cm 1400g Motormount additional 55g Mastplate and fillet 310g Overall 1775g with a thin Topcoat Cant say, what was most challenging, it was overall more work, organising plenty layers, Position of everything, thickness, sanding, stuffing in Vakuum, without everything moving around or cutting the bag (sharp edges) and much more. Everything doable, but i admit to have some expierience with some simpler stuff Like a Board 🤪 ---
### Author: ![V\_S](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/v_s/32/6616_2.png) [@V\_S](https://foil.zone/u/V_S) #### Post date: [March 17, 2024, 9:46am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/19 "2024-03-17T09:46:57Z")
![1000019705](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/1/8/1800d8224f0cad1cad2148db152b874209906a5d.jpeg) ![1000019703](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/6/a/6a576fbe43b936e91ec8cd3d43a8e7281bfe20a5.jpeg) 2960g Mast, Motor & Propeller 🤗 ---
### Author: ![okp](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/okp/32/20739_2.png) [@okp](https://foil.zone/u/okp) #### Post date: [March 17, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117/20 "2024-03-17T22:07:29Z")
wow! this is a master piece! [Next page](https://foil.zone/t/88cm-volkers-fifth/20117.md?page=2)