# Chinese hydrofoil for efoil?
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432
**Category:** Foils & Boards
**Created:** [October 26, 2017, 11:02am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432 "2017-10-26T11:02:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Gobbla](https://foil.zone/u/Gobbla)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2017, 11:02am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/1 "2017-10-26T11:02:03Z")
Dear all,
I m french (lyon), starting efoil project.
production of propulsion is under progress.
in parallal i would like to purchase hydrofoil.
I found in aliexpress different cheap foil.
[https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/100-carbon-fiber-surfing-hydrofoil-water-wings/32823752639.html?spm=a2g0w.search0104.3.2.CAw6AF&ws\_ab\_test=searchweb0\_0,searchweb201602\_3\_10152\_10065\_10151\_10344\_10068\_10345\_10342\_10343\_10340\_10341\_10541\_10084\_10083\_5370020\_10305\_10304\_10307\_10306\_10177\_10302\_10060\_10155\_10154\_10056\_10055\_10539\_10538\_10537\_10312\_10536\_10059\_10313\_10184\_10314\_10534\_10533\_100031\_10103\_10073\_10102\_5640020\_10142\_10107,searchweb201603\_24,ppcSwitch\_4&btsid=c8596a29-17bf-446a-96a6-59b00e0bb607&algo\_expid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168-0&algo\_pvid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168](https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/100-carbon-fiber-surfing-hydrofoil-water-wings/32823752639.html?spm=a2g0w.search0104.3.2.CAw6AF&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10345_10342_10343_10340_10341_10541_10084_10083_5370020_10305_10304_10307_10306_10177_10302_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10538_10537_10312_10536_10059_10313_10184_10314_10534_10533_100031_10103_10073_10102_5640020_10142_10107,searchweb201603_24,ppcSwitch_4&btsid=c8596a29-17bf-446a-96a6-59b00e0bb607&algo_expid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168-0&algo_pvid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168)
[https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Marque-nouveau-hydropt-re-fait-par-100-3-k-fiber-de-carbone-plus-grand-ailes-pour/32834601920.html?spm=a2g0w.search0104.3.53.CAw6AF&ws\_ab\_test=searchweb0\_0%2Csearchweb201602\_3\_10152\_10065\_10151\_10344\_10068\_10345\_10342\_10343\_10340\_10341\_10541\_10084\_10083\_5370020\_10305\_10304\_10307\_10306\_10177\_10302\_10060\_10155\_10154\_10056\_10055\_10539\_10538\_10537\_10312\_10536\_10059\_10313\_10184\_10314\_10534\_10533\_100031\_10103\_10073\_10102\_5640020\_10142\_10107%2Csearchweb201603\_24%2CppcSwitch\_4&btsid=c8596a29-17bf-446a-96a6-59b00e0bb607&algo\_expid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168-7&algo\_pvid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168](https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Marque-nouveau-hydropt-re-fait-par-100-3-k-fiber-de-carbone-plus-grand-ailes-pour/32834601920.html?spm=a2g0w.search0104.3.53.CAw6AF&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10345_10342_10343_10340_10341_10541_10084_10083_5370020_10305_10304_10307_10306_10177_10302_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10538_10537_10312_10536_10059_10313_10184_10314_10534_10533_100031_10103_10073_10102_5640020_10142_10107%2Csearchweb201603_24%2CppcSwitch_4&btsid=c8596a29-17bf-446a-96a6-59b00e0bb607&algo_expid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168-7&algo_pvid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168)
[https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Nouvelle-Pouss-e-Surf-Feuille-En-Fiber-De-Carbone-Hydropt-re-Eau-Ailes-pour-Feuille-Sup/32834039427.html?spm=a2g0w.search0104.3.32.CAw6AF&ws\_ab\_test=searchweb0\_0%2Csearchweb201602\_3\_10152\_10065\_10151\_10344\_10068\_10345\_10342\_10343\_10340\_10341\_10541\_10084\_10083\_5370020\_10305\_10304\_10307\_10306\_10177\_10302\_10060\_10155\_10154\_10056\_10055\_10539\_10538\_10537\_10312\_10536\_10059\_10313\_10184\_10314\_10534\_10533\_100031\_10103\_10073\_10102\_5640020\_10142\_10107%2Csearchweb201603\_24%2CppcSwitch\_4&btsid=c8596a29-17bf-446a-96a6-59b00e0bb607&algo\_expid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168-4&algo\_pvid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168](https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Nouvelle-Pouss-e-Surf-Feuille-En-Fiber-De-Carbone-Hydropt-re-Eau-Ailes-pour-Feuille-Sup/32834039427.html?spm=a2g0w.search0104.3.32.CAw6AF&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_3_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10345_10342_10343_10340_10341_10541_10084_10083_5370020_10305_10304_10307_10306_10177_10302_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10538_10537_10312_10536_10059_10313_10184_10314_10534_10533_100031_10103_10073_10102_5640020_10142_10107%2Csearchweb201603_24%2CppcSwitch_4&btsid=c8596a29-17bf-446a-96a6-59b00e0bb607&algo_expid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168-4&algo_pvid=80299eab-dc84-4042-8682-31ca6a8a5168)
What is you advise ? do you thinck it can work for efoil ? i did not found real feed back on internet.
Thanks for your help
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### Author:  [@Winging\_it](https://foil.zone/u/Winging_it)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/2 "2017-10-26T17:11:42Z")
Good find! All of these appear to have a solid mast…no space for wires in the mast.
Are these foils copies of existing kite foils?
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### Author:  [@keith75](https://foil.zone/u/keith75)
#### Post date: [October 26, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/3 "2017-10-26T17:52:39Z")
hi, i heard the guys in the endless sphere forum talking about having around 900 cm3 of area for the front wing for a 80kg person,
im planning on building my own with an ovel aluminium profile and laminating for the wings, the liquid force foil is lovely but its quite expensive for what it is
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### Author:  [@hotwireaddict](https://foil.zone/u/hotwireaddict)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 10:22am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/4 "2017-11-04T10:22:17Z")
The second link looks the same as the Lift efoil, so it’s already tested and working.
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### Author:  [@g.gregory8](https://foil.zone/u/g.gregory8)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/5 "2017-11-09T20:19:02Z")
Has anyone tried these foils yet? Whats the plan for routing cables with carbon non hollow mast?
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### Author:  [@Goldy](https://foil.zone/u/Goldy)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/6 "2017-11-09T22:21:46Z")
Maybe router a channel up the side of the mast and then carbon fibre/glass over it?
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### Author:  [@Gobbla](https://foil.zone/u/Gobbla)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/7 "2017-11-10T05:43:10Z")
I have contact JNJ , carbon mast is not hollowed. he advise me to go on aluminium mast.
But i dont like his foil with aluminium mast .
I asked him to sell separatly aluminium mast and front/rear carbon wing. He is not interested.
in my case i will focus on seconf hand foil.
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### Author:  [@superlefax](https://foil.zone/u/superlefax)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 8:54am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/8 "2017-11-10T08:54:47Z")
I bought this one. The quality is pretty nice!
The price was 350€ in total with 2 masts (hollow)
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### Author:  [@Goldy](https://foil.zone/u/Goldy)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 8:59am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/9 "2017-11-10T08:59:31Z")
That looks good, do you have the link for it? Cheers
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### Author:  [@superlefax](https://foil.zone/u/superlefax)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/10 "2017-11-10T10:17:10Z")
[https://xmgreatphoenix.m.en.alibaba.com](https://xmgreatphoenix.m.en.alibaba.com)
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 10:46am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/11 "2017-11-10T10:46:08Z")
I was wondering if that had actually arrived. What was the shipping time like? Do you have any more pictures of it? I would be interested to know if they would ship just the wings.
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### Author:  [@superlefax](https://foil.zone/u/superlefax)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/12 "2017-11-10T18:58:14Z")
Shipping time was 20 days and yes it actually arrived.
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### Author:  [@moggieuk](https://foil.zone/u/moggieuk)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/13 "2017-11-11T02:54:00Z")
superlefax, which of these foils did you purchase? I assume one of the windsurfing ones?
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### Author:  [@superlefax](https://foil.zone/u/superlefax)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 7:18am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/14 "2017-11-11T07:18:13Z")
I bought the Kitesurf foil
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### Author:  [@Fabien\_n](https://foil.zone/u/Fabien_n)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/15 "2017-11-11T19:23:15Z")
Hi!
Is it heavier than a liquid force foil? And what do you think about the quality of the construction now that you have it? Seems to be a nice solution!
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### Author:  [@DavidC](https://foil.zone/u/DavidC)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/16 "2017-11-11T23:38:57Z")
Why the kite over the sup ?
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### Author:  [@superlefax](https://foil.zone/u/superlefax)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/17 "2017-11-12T07:10:50Z")
The sup foil has to much lift. The Kite foil hast a good compromise between lift and end Speed. Look at my Video @ YouTube
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### Author:  [@arczi](https://foil.zone/u/arczi)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/18 "2017-11-12T18:07:06Z")
Nice i can wait to see is it really working looks preety stable. Only concern is to hide wire inside.
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### Author:  [@superlefax](https://foil.zone/u/superlefax)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/19 "2017-11-12T19:06:35Z")
I wish I had more time to practice 😉 It’s bloody cold in Germany right now.
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### Author:  [@smarm](https://foil.zone/u/smarm)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2017, 6:49am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/chinese-hydrofoil-for-efoil/432/20 "2017-11-14T06:49:58Z")
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$230 US with hollow aluminium mast.
At that price, I’m going to give it a go. Is a 65cm mast long enough? Front wing area seems to be enough
Any thoughts or red flags?
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