# Commence a design
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [September 9, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856 "2018-09-09T17:39:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@ypapakalodoukas](https://foil.zone/u/ypapakalodoukas)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856/1 "2018-09-09T17:39:56Z")
Dear efoilers,
I am new in business and would like to build an efoil. Could you please advise me total cost of an average design?
As I said, I am a starter and i do not know where to start.
I red some of your correspondences which look like an abyss to me.
Is any list of materials to start with?
That’s all fow now.
Thanks a lot!
Yiorgos
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### Author:  [@Benjo](https://foil.zone/u/Benjo)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856/2 "2018-09-09T17:52:55Z")
You can find all files and the BOM of the (I guess) most popular build [here.](http://efoil.builders/t/pacificmeister-build-info-and-cad-sources/21) It is pacificmeister’s build.
If you remove duplicate parts from the BOM and add a summation you are at around 1,500$. That is excluding a board, 3D printer or cost for ordered 3D printed parts, and a large enough battery (battery alone can be 500-800$).
So overall you will be at something between 1,500 and 2,500 depending on the design and parts you choose, there are many different ways.
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### Author:  [@ypapakalodoukas](https://foil.zone/u/ypapakalodoukas)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856/3 "2018-09-09T17:54:41Z")
> [@Benjo](#):
>
> You can find all files and the BOM of the (I guess) most popular build [here.](https://efoil.builders/t/pacificmeister-build-info-and-cad-sources/21) It is pacificmeister’s build.
> If you remove duplicate parts from the BOM and add a summation you are at around 1,500$. That is excluding a board, 3D printer or cost for ordered 3D printed parts, and a large enough battery (battery alone can be 500-800$).
> So overall you will be at something between 1,500 and 2,500 depending on the design and parts you choose, there are many different ways.
Benjo / Yiorgos
Is it worthing to spend usd 2000 or buy a chinese one with usd 2500?
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### Author:  [@Benjo](https://foil.zone/u/Benjo)
#### Post date: [September 9, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856/4 "2018-09-09T18:00:40Z")
I am not aware of any ready made chinese electric hydrofoils, can you give a link? Also I don’t think you can buy one for 2500$ with good quality. eFoils on the market are more around 10,000$, Takuma just teased one that will be 6,000$ which is really “cheap” for an eFoil.
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### Author:  [@ypapakalodoukas](https://foil.zone/u/ypapakalodoukas)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/commence-a-design/2856/5 "2019-05-27T20:02:03Z")
Has anyone tried the APS 83110 an out runner with watecooling?