Cutting ESC power under load

I’m going to go with…the same way it would work for anyone that’s used a surfboard or SUP leash deals with pretty much all of this except triggering the safety leash unwanted, but with a std SUP coil leash it would be out of the water while foiling and not long enough to get into the prop…

On my second build, I made a lanyard from a old ESD cord, a magnet. It works well. But it would smart if it hit you in the eye or tooth. Its not perfect.

It is connected to my life jacket near my waste. Laying on the board I feel for the lanyard at my waste, reach about where my fwd foot big toe would be and plug in. It stretches to about 5 1/2 feet.

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Thank you for sharing, this makes me feel a bit better about my initial solution. It sounds like all the issues of kiting with a board leash are present with this one too unfortunately. My mind goes toward putting the magnet in a foam pouch. Based on your experience, would this help?

You just need a hall sensor witch trips a 5v / 12v relay which then trips a 200a 12v relay which disconnects the power. Been using this for 3 years now no issues.

Which ESC are you using?

Again, when you using a big ESC like an Flier Boat 400A it will works great. But when you do it ihr a 200A VESC with 12S you have a very big chance to damage the VESC!
A lot of examples here in the Forum exist.

I wonder why that is? Is it because the larger ESC’s tend to have bigger capacitors able to withstand the back EMF spike?

I am not a specialist but it seams that big ESCs have enough reserve for Voltage spikes that are coming from the rotating motor.

Look around that forum, I remind it exists about this problem a own thread…

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I’m carefully following the discussion because I’ve installed a RED switch myself instead of the original power switch of my ESC Heifi SWORDFICH Pro+300, which is also equipped with the capacitor bank option (Suitable SWORDFISH series ESC to deal with the HIGH power and HEAVY load.
Capacitor: Rubycon 63V 470uF x 4=1880 uF).
Do you think I’m risking huge damage in case of a power cut at full Regine?
Thanks

What does your drive train look like? It’s possible to calculate this.

This is the Pacificmeister model : Motor SSS 56104 500kv’ / pack li-ion 12s12p (Sony VTC6 , 36 Ah , 1555wh )

I’m not exactly sure what destroys ESC’s in regard to back EMF (voltage/current or some combination of the two) I just know to not let it happen when it has no where to go. If you took off your prop and spun your motor shaft with a drill to max RPM it spins after killing power while riding in water, then used a multimeter to measure voltage/current at motor wires you could figure out what your ESC is experiencing.

I was going to suggest using electric motor power equations but with a mechanical gear reduction (I think that is a part of the Pacificmeister model?) I think it would be hard to calculate.

Yes PM model réducteur 5:1.
I do not hide you to have tested my kill switch on the test bench (propulsion in a pool) because the after-sales service of Heifi had told me that the kill switch was not dangerous for the esc … it is true that the esc always works after many tests …
But I am not very serene either during my first tests after the deconfinement…

Note that the 300 pro plus has its own failsafe in case of a 100ms loss of connection the esc cuts out, isn’t that enough protection?

Got it, sounds cool. I’m thinking about doing some bath tub tests here in the dorms! I am unsure how robust the 200A VESC I have from Flipsky is so I am going to treat it nicely. :slight_smile:

Yes someone pointed out these settings are in the VESC as well! I’m going to use them and leave my PPM signal input floating when the safety leash magnet is not present. The loss of connection timer is a great feature.

I do it like you said :wink:

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How to add a magnetic switch to your efoil electric surfboard: found on the Michobby site

The magnetic switch can be connected to the 5V cable of the signal cables. When the switch is turned on, the receiver continues to output signals to the ESC. When the switch falls off, the receiver stops outputting signals to the ESC, then electric surfboard or efoil stops working.

On/OFF powering of the receiver with a magnetic switch: should we totally abandon this idea, even if a waist leash seems to be a good answer to @PowerGlider questions:

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How does your 12S12P VTC6 perform? I’ve just finished building one too (for my jet board)

That is to say … I performed his first charge without any problem after setting up the BMS. To date I have not yet tested the board in autonomous mode. I still have one or two things to do before a new vacuum leak test before a test with an on-board battery.

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Nice. I still need to build my board (2nd one). Again… It is a jet board!
However. Like you fly guys boards… The jet board needs to be watertight too… This is for me the hardest part of the builds