# DIY mast & wing sheap

**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605
**Category:** Foils & Boards
**Created:** [November 9, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605 "2017-11-09T15:34:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/1 "2017-11-09T15:34:31Z")

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Hi, i just allways think about cost. My roule in life is " I want the best for free" (it never works btw). I find this site that can cut cost for mast and wing builders. This is just a start, please post if you find enything better/cheaper out there. It has to be.

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### Author: ![LukePL](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/lukepl/32/46_2.png) [@LukePL](https://foil.zone/u/LukePL)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/2 "2017-11-09T19:44:11Z")

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Is this shape ok?

 ![](https://efoil.builders/uploads/default/original/1X/0d52ab1332f0db5d5a61af81de3720334906217c.jpg)

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/3 "2017-11-09T19:53:00Z")

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wow, yes perfect, list site. god work:grin:

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### Author: ![LukePL](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/lukepl/32/46_2.png) [@LukePL](https://foil.zone/u/LukePL)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/4 "2017-11-09T20:35:24Z")

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These are sun shade louvers. [This product is no longer available.](https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/aerofoil-aluminum-sun-louvers-for-building_60381671056.html)  
Problem is that you probably can’t buy them in short lenghts. Starndard profile extrusion is 6m.  
There are many companies that produce them and also many companies that use them (mainly aluminium windows and door producers).  
Good thing is that lenghts that we need are scrap for them so it can be very chap or even free 😉  
You just need to find them 😃

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### Author: ![Fancyfoam](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@Fancyfoam](https://foil.zone/u/Fancyfoam)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/5 "2017-11-09T21:13:26Z")

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Might be a good mold but you have to be careful with what aluminum the mast is made from. Ours is not a brand name mast and it does bend a little which is not good for handeling.

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### Author: ![LukePL](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/lukepl/32/46_2.png) [@LukePL](https://foil.zone/u/LukePL)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/6 "2017-11-09T22:04:18Z")

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Usually its 6063 T6 but wall thickness and other things are important too.

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/7 "2017-11-10T14:35:45Z")

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On the site it says it is used 6060 T5 allow, it is used in marine(wather) sports as foil and rodder and the profile can be strengthened different ways. I was olso thinking it can be strengthened whith fiber(glas or carbon). But, maybe i do missunderstand. I am learning all the time.

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/8 "2017-11-10T14:48:06Z")

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On the site it does not show the thickness, but on the DAK drawings i can eyeball 😑 it to be about 2mm. That shoud be enough.  
On this litle site you can se how to change the profile whith cutting and gluing. Very DIY frendly, but still not cheap enough 😥

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/9 "2017-11-10T14:51:26Z")

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Yes, god idea, free is god 😁

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### Author: ![Winging\_it](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@Winging\_it](https://foil.zone/u/Winging_it)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/10 "2017-11-10T15:18:45Z")

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I bought my aluminum mast from Manta in Dubai. The sell masts that are not cosmetically perfect (labeled production scrap) for a pretty good price; currently $55 + shipping. I could not tell what was imperfect on my mast??

[https://www.mantafoils.com/e-shop/Manta-aluminum-mast-production-scrap-p59642799](https://www.mantafoils.com/e-shop/Manta-aluminum-mast-production-scrap-p59642799)

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### Author: ![Fancyfoam](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@Fancyfoam](https://foil.zone/u/Fancyfoam)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/11 "2017-11-10T16:21:43Z")

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The mast we are using has 3mm wall thickness and we can bend it with reasonable pressure on the main wing. This is one of our current concerns that we want to address.

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### Author: ![Ruibo\_Cai](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Ruibo\_Cai](https://foil.zone/u/Ruibo_Cai)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/12 "2017-11-10T19:59:34Z")

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I don’t have a foil yet just wondering if all the masts are of the same size?

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### Author: ![Thomas\_Romijn](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/thomas_romijn/32/311_2.png) [@Thomas\_Romijn](https://foil.zone/u/Thomas_Romijn)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/13 "2017-11-10T21:05:59Z")

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Have you ever thought about 3D printing your foil design? After you printed your foil you can put all the parts together and laminate them with carbon or polyester!

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### Author: ![DavidC](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@DavidC](https://foil.zone/u/DavidC)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/14 "2017-11-10T21:42:51Z")

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if its used for external window mouldings it would have to be weather resistant and high quality alu! (im guessing)

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/15 "2017-11-11T07:29:50Z")

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@Winging_it, thx, very god informasjon. I follow you and your frend, working fast and hard, cudos 😄

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 7:38am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/16 "2017-11-11T07:38:54Z")

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@Thomas_Romijn, Me no, what is the matrial cost for 3D print mast whith carbon/polyester?(no hours). 😄

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### Author: ![Thomas\_Romijn](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/thomas_romijn/32/311_2.png) [@Thomas\_Romijn](https://foil.zone/u/Thomas_Romijn)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 8:59am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/17 "2017-11-11T08:59:46Z")

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Well that depends on quite some thing, for instance the printing density and the internal structure you want to use.

I’d expect that you need around 2kg of PLA, what brings you to around a €50. You’ll also need the costs of the carbon, that’s always a hard one to make an indication about. I’d say that would be another €35-40. This offcourse strongly depend on what type of carbon you use.

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/18 "2017-11-11T09:02:26Z")

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@Thomas_Romijn, Thx, more than god enough.😄

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### Author: ![Winging\_it](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@Winging\_it](https://foil.zone/u/Winging_it)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/19 "2017-11-11T14:02:28Z")

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Here is an idea I have been considering for making a carbon mast. With respect to the sketch below:

1. Lay up several layers of carbon cloth on a bent piece of sheet metal. Use cooking parchment paper as a release layer. The parchment paper; used for cooking; is available at food stores.

2. After curing, remove the carbon from the metal form.

3. Install the motor wires, tack in place with hot glue.

4. Pinch the trailing edge together and glue to form an airfoil shape.

5. Fill the remaining hollow spaces with resin mixed with chopped carbon fiber.

Done well, this could make a lightweight, stiff, strong and a not too expensive mast.

 ![F540844F-036F-44F9-AFCF-805D0F1BACB8](https://efoil.builders/uploads/default/original/1X/0ed87c0dcefc3b8fba69cd7d535974bf40b9b779.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Flex](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/flex/32/504_2.png) [@Flex](https://foil.zone/u/Flex)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/diy-mast-wing-sheap/605/20 "2017-11-11T14:21:49Z")

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@Winging_it, wow simpel, warterproof and cheap. I love this idea, god thinking. can you estimate roughly the cost of carbon cloth and resin mix?  
Thank you, keep it up 😄

After looking at your perfect sketch, i am thinking maybe make 2 set of carbon shell, and then do as you say. Why? because i think after cureing the carbon vil be hard to bend, maybe crack, i have never workt with carbon so i realy don`t know.

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