# Efoil assisted motor
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268
**Category:** Electronics (ESC, remote, batteries)
**Created:** [December 20, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268 "2020-12-20T17:00:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@frenchfoiler](https://foil.zone/u/frenchfoiler)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/1 "2020-12-20T17:00:35Z")
Looks like all the Efoil are doing the same way : propeller close to the wing which creates a lot of drag.
Why not putting the propeller up on the mast or on the board to get an assisted power to lift and then having only the wing working 100% ???
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### Author:  [@Ackermann](https://foil.zone/u/Ackermann)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/2 "2020-12-20T17:18:32Z")
For waves okay, but for all the lake and river riders here this is no option. There was one board recently in the forum with such concept.
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/3 "2020-12-20T23:30:48Z")
> [@Boost Surfing FIN greatly inspired by Efoil](https://foil.zone/t/boost-surfing-fin-greatly-inspired-by-efoil/6561/15):
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> I have a dream … A while back I put down the $200 to see if this will work, to propel my sup / surf foil in unbreaking waves, allowing me to just barely catch waves that are otherwise not catchable. My hope is that I can mount it to foil mast, get a boost, then once up on the foil and out of the water, no extra drag. One day I will post a report if my dream came true … I have my doubts, but remain cautiously optimistic.
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### Author:  [@frenchfoiler](https://foil.zone/u/frenchfoiler)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/4 "2020-12-21T14:33:29Z")
Not for wave, for open ocean swell, an empty wide (endless ???) playground, we need to go away from the surf zone where there is no space anymore.
Also, an assisted only for take off Efoil would help people learning how to pump even on flat water. When you see the efficency of those new foil you don’t need much to fly.
I think all the big Efoil comapny are going in the wrong direction…
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/5 "2020-12-21T15:23:16Z")
> [@frenchfoiler](#):
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> Not for wave, for open ocean swell, an empty wide (endless ???) playground, we need to go away from the surf zone where there is no space anymore.
Simply place the motor half way up the mast. Then when you foil on a swell its out the water. But you will always need a backup ski for safety which pretty much renders the motor pointless then as you’d rather have a lighter setup and just tow with the ski…
> [@frenchfoiler](#):
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> Also, an assisted only for take off Efoil would help people learning how to pump even on flat water. When you see the efficency of those new foil you don’t need much to fly.
I think you underestimate just how much harder it is to pump a 20kg board vs a 3-4kg board!
> [@frenchfoiler](#):
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> I think all the big Efoil comapny are going in the wrong direction…
Yes, lift and fliteboard clearly got it wrong with their products that are so in demand that they can barely keep up with production…
You seem to ignore the fact that 99% of efoil users don’t actually want to ride waves. So it more appears you got it wrong… This response may seem harsh, but its accurate, just look at how many efoilers here foil in lakes and rivers vs waves.
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### Author:  [@frenchfoiler](https://foil.zone/u/frenchfoiler)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/6 "2020-12-21T15:58:48Z")
“Yes, lift and fliteboard clearly got it wrong with their products that are so in demand that they can barely keep up with production…
You seem to ignore the fact that 99% of efoil users don’t actually want to ride waves. So it more appears you got it wrong… This response may seem harsh, but its accurate, just look at how many efoilers here foil in lakes and rivers vs waves.”
Maybe they go with the direction to get the money that is for sure and it is ok with that, but I talking about spirit. I think the Efoil right now are fine for flat water. For me the futur is to ride open ocean swell on a foil. I can do it on my sup foil, downwinding is the best feeling ever but not for everybody. It would be nice to get more people doing it as the playground is so big and empty.
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### Author:  [@Ackermann](https://foil.zone/u/Ackermann)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/7 "2020-12-21T17:36:47Z")
Quite hard to admit, but I agree with jezza. Who would have ever thought that 2020 could be even more crazy.
I think it’s kind of optimistic assumption that everybody has an ocean next door. If I had, I would rather go for these inflatable sails for foiling to catch a wave. Pumping in general looks fun on a 1minute yt video but I doubt it’s fun for longer than that. Also: where is the engineering nerdiness without all the tech 🙂
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### Author:  [@frenchfoiler](https://foil.zone/u/frenchfoiler)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/8 "2020-12-21T18:26:05Z")
You will see. I compare this to the revolution of Ebike. You have Ebike for cruising and you have Ebike for doing long dirt run impossible to do without help.
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### Author:  [@michion](https://foil.zone/u/michion)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/9 "2020-12-22T06:11:01Z")
> [@Michion's Build](https://foil.zone/t/michions-build/2625/114):
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> 160469864068129615850348568600241728×1728 1.1 MB
Na, you’re wrong. Anything electric is a slug on the water. Too big of a weight penalty.
Ive built one and it is fun, but if there is wind Id rather take a wing or a paddle and not have the extra weight.
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### Author:  [@frenchfoiler](https://foil.zone/u/frenchfoiler)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/10 "2020-12-22T07:34:44Z")
Yes the problem is the weight, but you don’t a big battery as it is only for lifting, so you should be able to make it way lighter.
Once again I don’t know anything about making stuff like that, I just wish some bands or some people try to search in the direction.
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/11 "2020-12-22T11:23:47Z")
> [@michion](#):
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> Ive built one and it is fun, but if there is wind Id rather take a wing or a paddle and not have the extra weight.
A winch is also loads of fun!
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2020, 11:26am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/12 "2020-12-22T11:26:08Z")
> [@frenchfoiler](#):
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> Once again I don’t know anything about making stuff like that, I just wish some bands or some people try to search in the direction.
Build a board and put a wavejet pod in. It won’t get you up on the foil, but it will assist into a wave or swell…
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### Author:  [@michion](https://foil.zone/u/michion)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/13 "2020-12-23T00:47:35Z")
> [@frenchfoiler](#):
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> I just wish some bands or some people try to search in the direction.
Maybe they will one day. After the demand for efoils dies down, or they up their manufacturing capacity.
I think a reversible mast would be cool. Motor up or down. Would be tricky to engineer but not impossible.
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/efoil-assisted-motor/11268/14 "2020-12-24T01:01:19Z")
> [@michion](#):
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> I think a reversible mast would be cool. Motor up or down. Would be tricky to engineer but not impossible.
The wire positions make this difficult to design. Therefore, the undrilled masts where you just ajust/change the mast cover length, could be a 1/3-2/3 one… Credit @Gobbla
