# I want to buy an tow boogie
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316
**Category:** efoils – Electric Hydrofoil Surfboards
**Created:** [June 3, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316 "2023-06-03T10:32:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@meow](https://foil.zone/u/meow)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/1 "2023-06-03T10:32:00Z")
Is there a commercial available tow boogie? Beside the etow? Something smaller and cheaper? Don’t really want to build anything myself.
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/3 "2023-06-04T10:57:32Z")
Nothing available yet that I’ve seen. There was WaveEscort, but they haven’t posted anything in ages. Another one I saw mentioned on here was “space aged foils”, but there’s nothing online any more. Towing with an efoil isn’t very optimal either.
Building a basic boogie isn’t too hard, trickiest part is sourcing the battery, either making or buying one.
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/6 "2023-06-04T13:17:36Z")
> [@Strongarm](#):
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> Building a basic boogie isn’t too hard, trickiest part is sourcing the battery, either making or buying one.
That’s a market for Foil Drive: the Foil Drive Boogie kit, everything but the board 😉
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/7 "2023-06-04T15:51:46Z")
How much do you want to pay and where are you located?
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/8 "2023-06-04T20:56:45Z")
With the standard FD mark up it would be the same price as a Takuma!
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### Author:  [@meow](https://foil.zone/u/meow)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/9 "2023-06-04T21:13:38Z")
I already have foil drive. How to convert it into a tow boogie? Just use a foil board and mast without the fuse and wings?
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/10 "2023-06-04T23:46:40Z")
Find and copy a project that works (like @jenz[with a mast in the midle of the board](https://foil.zone/t/okptow-jatems-style/17205/105))
Cut or find a short mast, install your pod + motor
Find a rope.
If you ride on flat water, you are in efoil mode, you need a FD Assist Plus for a correct autonomy (100% pull)
If you surf waves, you are in FD mode, a FD Assist could be ok (50% pull).
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [June 5, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/11 "2023-06-05T01:01:37Z")
A friends tried using an assist plus, and it just about worked. Needed a use a really big wing, like a png1310 to get up. After a couple of tried with the assist he on went on and built a proper boogie.
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/i-want-to-buy-an-tow-boogie/18316/12 "2023-06-06T18:29:55Z")
> [@meow](#):
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> I already have foil drive. How to convert it into a tow boogie? Just use a foil board and mast without the fuse and wings?
For a tow boogie, if you’re 70+kg, the solution is probably a more powerful motor like the APS 63100 that you’ll have to marinize:
> [@Tow boogie - can you get away with a 6384?](https://foil.zone/t/tow-boogie-can-you-get-away-with-a-6384/18332/3):
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> You could use a 63100, the one I use for an efoil has 4500W (110A Battery current @12S). It is the sensorless one from APS. You can also use this one and cut the sensor wires: [https://alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/63mm/aps-63100-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-140kv-4500w/](https://alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/63mm/aps-63100-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-140kv-4500w/)