# Intro and hello
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [April 15, 2023, 10:03am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986 "2023-04-15T10:03:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 10:03am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/1 "2023-04-15T10:03:18Z")
Hello all,
Tried my first efoil yesterday on a 1hr session - amazing! Got it flying and I’m hooked, can’t believe we didn’t have these before for those windless days.
I’ve previously (years ago) sailed, windsurf, kitesurfed but stopped doing these things pre-foils - I think the latest gear I ever had was a OG cabrina switchblade.
I work in surgical robotics now so have experience in electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, fabrication and have built myself a nice little workshop in UK, familiar with glass layups etc.
I’ve also made several contributions to open source UAV projects like ardupilot and openESC and have built drones for many years.
Can’t wait to start a efoil build! I’m particularly interested in getting a ejet efoil done.
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 11:20am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/2 "2023-04-15T11:20:12Z")
Welcome Swwils, wishing you tens (hundreds) of hours of enjoyable reading 🖖
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/3 "2023-04-15T13:22:18Z")
Whereabouts in the UK?
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/4 "2023-04-15T13:23:49Z")
Leeds!
Do most of my water sport abroad though!
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/5 "2023-04-15T13:26:51Z")
I think we also need to see pics of the workshop.
I’m down south so a bit too far to efoil with.
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### Author:  [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/6 "2023-04-15T13:40:41Z")
Welcome, and good luck building!
why ejet? I haven’t seen any done with good efficiency.
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/7 "2023-04-15T14:06:03Z")
I just had a look and I don’t have any recent pics, I’ll grab one soon.
It’s a integrated double garage with high ceilings!
At work we do alot of soft silicone work so have some high end vaccum planetary mixing gear and micro dlp 3d printing tech. (Sub 10um).
When on holiday I have young kids and it’s a jet-ski sensitive area; I think something more enclosed than a duct would be an easier sell.
I have no idea of any appropriate places close to Leeds to be honest I’ve never liked the cold!
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### Author:  [@Kian](https://foil.zone/u/Kian)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/8 "2023-04-15T14:23:07Z")
I hope you go abroad by car.
If not you will have a problem taking your battery with you.
My grandparents live in Scotland and last year I wanted to take my inflatable efoil with my (by plain).
The efoil was not a problem however the 2kw battery was.
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/9 "2023-04-15T15:14:45Z")
Fortunately I have safe storage at both ends for big batteries, my house has 10kWh of storage and I can go by car to the other end.
Not unfamiliar with lipo’s going bad. I think after the first time you get alot more prudent with both them and lion.
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### Author:  [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/10 "2023-04-15T15:24:29Z")
> [@Swwils](#):
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> it’s a jet-ski sensitive area; I think something more enclosed than a duct would be an easier sell.
It’s just that a jet impeller screams where a propeller is barely heard even by the rider, in this regard propeller drive is better. I think using a blunt propeller is overall the best option.
Or do a loop prop without any cutting edge at all 😄
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/11 "2023-04-15T15:38:12Z")
I’ve printed some toroidal props for my 250 drone on the form 3 and was quite impressed!
I would guess a nicely tuned direct drive is pretty silent
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### Author:  [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/12 "2023-04-15T16:00:26Z")
Yes, the small dribble from the mast piercing the water is the loudest sound when i ride - and i love that!
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/13 "2023-04-15T16:10:52Z")
> [@Swwils](#):
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> ’ve printed some toroidal props for my 250 drone on the form 3 and was quite impressed!
No need for a duct as demonstrated here: [https://youtu.be/w90gM7bGdvk?t=364](https://youtu.be/w90gM7bGdvk?t=364)
'[Toroidal Propellors - #99 by SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/t/toroidal-propellors/17518/99)
> [@Toroidal Propellors](https://foil.zone/t/toroidal-propellors/17518/99):
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> So now, we know what to expect and what to look for. It will be interesting to position the dedicated efoil results in a diagram like this one found in the above submarine video : '[https://youtu.be/w90gM7bGdvk?t=364](https://youtu.be/w90gM7bGdvk?t=364) Another point is where to position the costly (\*) jet option offered in 2023 by Fliteboard, Takuma, Foil, Manta (…) +Audi in the above diagram. If it is worse than today’s MIT prop (so left of diagram), called to improve with time: 1 - a jet could become pointless since…
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/14 "2023-04-15T16:22:21Z")
Been reading some of the stuff here, awesome knowledge and I’m already blown away by some of the builds.
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### Author:  [@Gazman79](https://foil.zone/u/Gazman79)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/15 "2023-04-15T17:25:20Z")
Hi, I’m based in lincoln which isn’t too far away, I mainly foil on the Lincolnshire coast anywhere from the Humber to the Wash.
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/16 "2023-04-24T11:32:54Z")
Here’s the workshop in need of some tidy up!
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### Author:  [@Toto44](https://foil.zone/u/Toto44)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2023, 7:07am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/17 "2023-04-25T07:07:59Z")
Nice Ferrari
20 char
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### Author:  [@Kian](https://foil.zone/u/Kian)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/18 "2023-04-25T08:51:44Z")
I like the drone more 🙂
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2023, 9:28am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/19 "2023-04-25T09:28:24Z")
It’s a where’s Waldo of mess!
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### Author:  [@Swwils](https://foil.zone/u/Swwils)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/intro-and-hello/17986/21 "2023-04-25T15:47:19Z")
Tried a little shaping on the computer last night. I think a simple flat bottom is probably best. This works out at 85L which might be too small. It’s also every so slightly wider towards the front and I wanted a large sloped back.
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