Motor recommendations in 2023?

Which motor would you recommend for an efoil build that uses a 14s or 15s battery?

I have seen the 65161 recommended a lot in older threads.
Is it still a good choice?
And if yes, which variant should I order?
There seems to be different variants out there, one being this one: Efoil motor FS65161 100KV 6000W 20S water proof for motorized surfboard | Flipsky.net – FLIPSKY

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100 or 120kv for 14s. The 10usd prop is satisfacory if reduced to 140cm@12s, possibly 120-130 here at 15s.

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At a third of the above cost another serious recommandation is the SAITE 80100 or 63100 waterproof outrunners . So @brycej still fancying a short shaft one :wink: ? Do they sell the waterproof version only with short shaft ? Btw, why a 80100 over a 63100 ?

I was looking for one that would be able the same power as the flipsky 65161 for comparison. 63100 would be another interesting one to try.

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