# My "Quick and Dirty" Tow Boogie, Foil Assist etc
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088
**Category:** Build, Repair & Mod
**Created:** [September 11, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088 "2023-09-11T21:40:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/1 "2023-09-11T21:40:10Z")
I decided to create a separate topic for my tow boogie. It will also be in the “quick and dirty” style. Therefore, for now I will post here several photos of the board at different stages of testing.
 
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/2 "2023-09-11T21:55:26Z")
I’m currently working on a tow boogie with two motors 65161 and I just discovered that it is twice as expensive as a tow boogie with one motor 65161. Oh god, someone please stop me!
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/3 "2023-09-11T23:22:59Z")
Why two 65161? For deep water starts and differential steering?
It will be a beast!
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/4 "2023-09-12T02:52:22Z")
Right. I want to start with this baby.
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 4:44am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/5 "2023-09-12T04:44:24Z")
As long as the board planes you can usually get up. I got up on a 11L 130cm long Armstrong board @95kg with a single 65161 and a 13s pack.
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### Author:  [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 5:35am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/6 "2023-09-12T05:35:07Z")
The tow boogie builds look like a lot of fun but i have too many projects!
What is the best benefit of riding with a boogie vs efoil?
Is it worth squeezing in a build?
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/7 "2023-09-12T06:19:04Z")
Removing weight from the board means you get the true foil feel.
I have a 12kg efoil setup and it’s the most efoil fun I’ve ever had!
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 6:22am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/8 "2023-09-12T06:22:38Z")
It may look a bit redundant, but… These devices are gathering dust on my shelf and the idea that I will be able to develop the project further makes me happy.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 6:29am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/9 "2023-09-12T06:29:21Z")
I think the good thing about the tow boogie is that no matter what weight it is, you always have a great feel for the foil)
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/10 "2023-09-12T08:16:41Z")
With the only downside being extra things to carry and set up…
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 8:27am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/11 "2023-09-12T08:27:51Z")
Everything has its price
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/12 "2023-09-12T10:24:21Z")
Using a Tow Boogie is an actual sport, you finish a session exhausted, especially after catching 100+ waves and pumping back for more waves and then to the boogie. My average HR is around 150-160 for an hour and a half.
It’s more of a work out than sup foil, or prone.
I find efoil is like going for a e-bike ride round a retirement village.
The Boogie is the future.
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### Author:  [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [September 12, 2023, 10:47am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/13 "2023-09-12T10:47:19Z")
> [@Strongarm](#):
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> I find efoil is like going for a e-bike ride round a retirement village.
Well motivated. I’ve only efoiled since my ocean and wind is a bit too far away. I’d guess the huge benefit to both efoil and boogie is if i ever go foiling or surfing in the wild then i’ll already have a lot of hours on the board.
OK, i’ll build a boogie 😃
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### Author:  [@Foilguy](https://foil.zone/u/Foilguy)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/14 "2023-09-13T15:10:06Z")
Flat water is easy for me to understand as it’s kind of like a ski boat that you travel behind.
However I’m having a little trouble understanding the logistics of using a tow boogie in surf riding.
Assume you are by yourself
Use the tow to get out to where the waves are right to begin, tow yourself onto foil and let go of handle and foil around while the boogie is then out of your control.
Does the boogie generally stay where you left it and is it easy to get back to and how do you do that or does it get caught in a wave and surf it’s way to shore where you get it and rinse/repeat???
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### Author:  [@Tone](https://foil.zone/u/Tone)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/15 "2023-09-13T20:22:03Z")
Thats pretty awesome, did you manage that in flat water or waves?
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2023, 3:36am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/16 "2023-09-14T03:36:54Z")
In the waves, I’ve spent years in the surf though, sup foiling, kiting and winging so pretty comfortable out there.
The boogie still uses a surprising amount of power when following along beside you.
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/17 "2023-09-14T03:45:39Z")
I drive my boogie out through the shore break with me paddling on the foil behind, trying not to be directly behind it on big days.
Once out the back you whip in to unbroken swell and usually pull off before they break well away from other surfers. I either pump back to the Boogie or drive it beside me while on the swell.
Aim is to not get into the white water, and not too far from the Boogie.
I’ve probably done 1000km + so far in the surf. Here’s a typical morning Boogie.
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### Author:  [@Foilguy](https://foil.zone/u/Foilguy)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2023, 8:40am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/18 "2023-09-14T08:40:02Z")
Nice explanation Thanks.
One question on technique. When you do pump back to it can you somehow pick up the handle “on the fly” or do you stop beside it and then do a full start to get going again?
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2023, 8:45am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/19 "2023-09-14T08:45:45Z")
I’m 95 kg and 1.85cm tall using a pretty small board, so getting the timing right is pretty tricky.
I’ve done it a few times, and I should practice a lot more…
A few friends who are lighter, shorter and more skilled can do I routinely which saves battery life.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/20 "2023-09-17T18:22:42Z")
I plan to test it in the middle of next week.
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