# My "Quick and Dirty" Tow Boogie, Foil Assist etc
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088
**Category:** Build, Repair & Mod
**Created:** [September 11, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088 "2023-09-11T21:40:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ElFoilLoco](https://foil.zone/u/ElFoilLoco)
#### Post date: [September 18, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/21 "2023-09-18T20:09:11Z")
I’m anticipating results on this one . Curious how the counter-rotating props will act with that amount of distance between them.
Are you doubling up on VESC’s and Batteries? What’s the final weight on this build?
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/22 "2023-09-19T00:21:32Z")
The final weight, according to my calculations, will be around 25-28 kilograms. Two 75-300 controllers, two 12S batteries of 28 amp/hours each. And I changed my mind and will put it not on a bodyboard, but on a board made in the efoil mini style. The tests will be slightly delayed due to Covid , but will not be cancelled.
The Pelican is ready and tested for waterproofness, the connectors are installed in my favorite style - fast and crooked.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/23 "2023-09-19T00:41:18Z")
The 63100 motors mounted on one axis work quite well.
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### Author:  [@ElFoilLoco](https://foil.zone/u/ElFoilLoco)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/24 "2023-09-20T00:36:42Z")
I really like those amphenol plugs. Can you possibly share the model and where you purchased? We’ve been having a lot of water intrusion into pelican boxes lately. We use our boogies for towing into waves and occasionally, the boogie can flip over and even though they are waterproof, the heat buildup inside causes some expansion(even with a pressure valve). Then, when the boogie flips over onto the cooler water, there’s a fast contraction, and it can suck water in through the seals. We’re extra careful now. If the boogie flips over, we turn upright as quick as possible, and check for water often. We also have our ESC’s in sealed aluminum boxes inside the Pelican box for additional protection and heatsink.
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### Author:  [@Jesserosco](https://foil.zone/u/Jesserosco)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/25 "2023-09-20T01:39:29Z")
That is a wild setup!! Is it exponentially more powerful than the dual 6384’s?
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### Author:  [@Yuri](https://foil.zone/u/Yuri)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/26 "2023-09-20T04:30:13Z")
What do you think about using two of these 3.5 kW 800gram 6374 back to back counter rotating:
> **[Efoil DIY Foil Assist Kit ( 6374 150KV Waterproof Motor + 100A V6 base](https://michobby.com/products/maytech-efoil-diy-foil-assist-kit-6374-150kv-waterproof-motor-100a-v6-based-esc-mtskr1905wf-waterproof-remote?variant=43161533677729)**
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> Maytech Efoil DIY Foil Assist Kit 6374 150KV Waterproof Motor + 100A V6 based ESC + MTSKR1905WF Waterproof Remote Maytech New Motor/ESC/Remote Kit, easily to convert your non-electric foil, wind foil, kite surf, sup board, wing foil, etc to electric....
Already waterproofed, lighter, 7kW total power. Not sure what propeller to use, foldable not necessary, I guess…
Also, are propellers disturbing each others flow or helping with nice clean flow? Please publish your 3D printing files and material settings. Thank you.
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### Author:  [@Strongarm](https://foil.zone/u/Strongarm)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 11:03am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/27 "2023-09-20T11:03:02Z")
I had the same issue with water getting in the pelican. I tried a few different types as well. My theory was the same as yours, with the cooling causing contraction and sucking in water.
I tired blocking off the gore valve but it didn’t seem to help much.
A few ideas other ideas I had which could help…
- The installed foam seal in the case could be replaced with a pourable 2 part soft silicone into the same gap. This would provide a lot better seal.
- Water cooling of the VESC (or putting in a seperate case) would help keep the temp inside the case down.
- Putting a bike valve on the case so you can slightly pressurise once closed so always under positive pressure.
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### Author:  [@ElFoilLoco](https://foil.zone/u/ElFoilLoco)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/28 "2023-09-20T14:41:12Z")
Pelican advises to change the gasket once a year. I’m going to replace the gasket, but I will place a bead of silicone in the groove before installing it. This should give a little more height to the gasket, and more pressure against the seal.
I’m also experimenting with other boxes for other builds. PolyCase has some nice boxes that have strong latches and are very water tight. They also have clear lids that are cool looking and you can see what’s going on in the box.
I’ve been going with two boxes. One box for the VESC, and another box with quick release connectors to quickly switch out batteries without opening a Pelican box with wet hands for another session.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/29 "2023-09-20T16:05:41Z")
These are not original connectors, but Chinese copies. Here is the link.
[https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005639793586.html?spm=a2g2w.orderdetail.0.0.683d4aa6HGd6Ud&sku\_id=12000033846890965](https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005639793586.html?spm=a2g2w.orderdetail.0.0.683d4aa6HGd6Ud&sku_id=12000033846890965)
As for water getting into the Pelican, the thermal conductivity of the plastic is minimal, I think this is due to the effect of water flow into the side slot. It expands and allows water to pass through. In this area. I need to test this theory using side clamps.
P.S. I mean, hot air can expand and lift the lid, but cooling will not be instantaneous due to the low thermal conductivity of the plastic.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/30 "2023-09-20T16:10:36Z")
With 63100 I feel an increase in performance. Especially looking at friends who are not as skinny as me)
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### Author:  [@Foilguy](https://foil.zone/u/Foilguy)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/31 "2023-09-20T19:52:07Z")
I have one of these cases and it’s really well built. One way valve for pressure compensation
Edit: updated link
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/32 "2023-10-18T19:50:08Z")
The project with two motors 65161 is on pause for now. I went out on the water and I didn’t really like it, in a straight line it’s excellent, there’s plenty of power, but steering with a halyard is extremely ineffective. Perhaps Ludwig’s remote control will correct the situation, I have already ordered several kits.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/33 "2023-10-18T19:56:55Z")
But, we tested a concept with two motors that can be installed on any board with a US box. And it works.
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### Author:  [@Jesserosco](https://foil.zone/u/Jesserosco)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/34 "2023-10-18T21:55:16Z")
The BREmote is the key for steering! It works so good!
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/35 "2024-06-25T17:15:14Z")
We made a new tow boogie. It rides and handles much better than those made on the basis of a bodyboard.
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### Author:  [@MRUEM](https://foil.zone/u/MRUEM)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/36 "2024-06-26T05:46:10Z")
This one lokks good. Do you have any more informations? Length? Where to place the motors? …
Thank you!
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/37 "2024-06-27T21:37:22Z")
The board is made in the dimensions of a bodyboard, but is much thicker. The location of the motors roughly corresponds to their location in the first photo in this thread.
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/38 "2024-08-25T14:51:07Z")
Made a new version. ESC Fly Dragon 150A is now located on the side. This allowed to reduce the length to 501 centimeters with a 11s3p battery. I want to note that the controller works much better than HV3 160A or SEQURE 12200, there are no synchronization failures at high speeds. Very pleased.
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### Author:  [@Etiennebzh](https://foil.zone/u/Etiennebzh)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/39 "2024-08-25T15:09:01Z")
Waw, really nice. Could you give us the weight of this rig ?
No rigidity issue when foiling with this 3d print box ?
Cheers
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### Author:  [@rttn](https://foil.zone/u/rttn)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/my-quick-and-dirty-tow-boogie-foil-assist-etc/19088/40 "2024-08-25T16:05:22Z")
Weight with a large battery is 4.6 kilograms. I do not feel a lack of rigidity. Perhaps I am not the most sophisticated user)
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