# New type of Jet Propulsion system?
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491
**Category:** Propulsion System (Motor, Gears)
**Created:** [May 14, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491 "2019-05-14T10:59:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@XSailor](https://foil.zone/u/XSailor)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491/1 "2019-05-14T10:59:54Z")
Kind of redneck solution, maybe not that efficient. But guess no gear and enables even with a foil engine to be out of water, direct drive, only straight axle?
Jet Turbo Pantaneiro on google helps with details.
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### Author:  [@XSailor](https://foil.zone/u/XSailor)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491/2 "2019-05-14T15:12:08Z")
Not meaning to use this engine on a foil but only the propulsion part of it đ
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### Author:  [@SoEFoil](https://foil.zone/u/SoEFoil)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491/3 "2019-05-15T21:52:58Z")
> [@XSailor](#):
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> Jet Turbo Pantaneiro
So if I understand correctly, water is vaccumed from the bottom and redirected backwards with a 90 degrees angle ?
Pros I see:
- engine can be mounted vertically in the board with rotating axis in the mast
- motor ESC and battery packed in same area
- waterproofing : only in the board (hatch, âŠ)
- water expelled through the fuselage
Cons:
- Not sure about the efficiency.
- more noise and vibration
- fuselage section should be important: 
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### Author:  [@Alexandre](https://foil.zone/u/Alexandre)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491/4 "2019-05-16T00:21:49Z")
Water pump propulsion like the first âjet surfboardâ 40 years ago âŠ
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### Author:  [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491/5 "2019-05-16T06:15:41Z")
That will be super inefficient. The 90 degree bend means itâs for a super slow speed. If you want to go for a jet design. There much better ones available.
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### Author:  [@XSailor](https://foil.zone/u/XSailor)
#### Post date: [May 16, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/new-type-of-jet-propulsion-system/4491/6 "2019-05-16T17:48:23Z")
Checked some Youtube videos with the 6.5 hp and 3 hp versions. As a very inaccurate estimation looks like, at these speeds, probably same speed as outboard with roughly 30% less power. However i think with this design as outboard version, the resistance of the jet housing is huge. By no means donât think this will be efficient but in a surf board version tho whole unit can be integrated in the hull so would probably work better there. Probably the bend can be re designed to a less steep? Somehow like the simple design, good idea. Efficiency is then another story.
Here some parts to this machine, impeller is roughly 15 euros!
> **[HĂ©lice Jet Turbo - 3255-0003 - R$ 95](https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1015577301-helice-jet-turbo-3255-0003-_JM?quantity=1)**
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> HĂLICE JET TURBO (CĂłd. 3255-0003)APLICAĂĂO: Motores Jet Turbo Pantaneiro de 3.5 / 3.0 HPA Meghi IndĂșstria MecĂąnica Ă© referencia no mercado de produtos da linha NĂĄutica, de Jardinagem, Linha Lenhador e diversos outros produtos, comercializados em todo...
And here a more developed version for outboards.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1SGmBK1DK0)