# Prop design share

**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849
**Category:** Props & Ducts
**Created:** [October 2, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849 "2019-10-02T09:30:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3

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### Author: ![guldsteen](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a9adbd/32.png) [@guldsteen](https://foil.zone/u/guldsteen)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/41 "2020-02-07T14:05:31Z")

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Hi MaB  
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with 3d printing the props!! I just got a spool og Polymaker PC-Max today and started printing the 140-230 prop this morning. The print unfortunately failed because of the wings lifted of the print bed, print was 50% done, but I noticed that the layer adhesion wasn’t very good, when bending the half-finished prop.

Could you maybe share your print settings and your experience printing with PC-Max? Temps, speed, layer height, line width etc.? And did you anneal the prop afterwards in an oven?

Thanks again for your prop contribution!

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### Author: ![tkstudio](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tkstudio](https://foil.zone/u/tkstudio)
#### Post date: [February 7, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/42 "2020-02-07T16:09:36Z")

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Ask to see the workpiece

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### Author: ![Sliman\_O](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/sliman_o/32/10509_2.png) [@Sliman\_O](https://foil.zone/u/Sliman_O)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/43 "2020-03-19T16:37:33Z")

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If someone is interested, here is a 3d model close to the one FR used to reach 50kmh the first time :  
Generated using the same software, I do not have that much time to tinker the different parameters so I share it “as it”.

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1a7baf25232372cab1ce6f8ee6ec779592564baf.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2b87473ecc56ecf48e1268f7322b291605c5973f.jpeg)

> **[PROP\_TEST.step](https://drive.google.com/file/d/15XLEqkZ6f-hySt0gMkPC4B7t1Ct0kVE_/view)**
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> 150mm diam. 45mm hub. High pitch

150 mm diameter  
45mm hub  
high pitch (to be calculated)

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### Author: ![Ackermann](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/ackermann/32/34149_2.png) [@Ackermann](https://foil.zone/u/Ackermann)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/44 "2020-03-22T18:53:19Z")

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Cool. I printed it, without support. Kinda okay, but very thin, could you share a version with is slightly thicker?  
Regards

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### Author: ![nice2cu](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/nice2cu/32/17766_2.png) [@nice2cu](https://foil.zone/u/nice2cu)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/45 "2020-03-22T19:20:47Z")

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Some pictures please.

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### Author: ![Sliman\_O](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/sliman_o/32/10509_2.png) [@Sliman\_O](https://foil.zone/u/Sliman_O)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/46 "2020-03-22T19:34:52Z")

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Yeah, this prop is made to be CNC’ed. You’d get way better results trying to make it in alu. I would suggest anyone wanting to mill it to use 7075-t6. That’s what FR is using. This particular al is aerospace grade bu is not corrosive resistant, meaning you have to anodize it afterwards. Here too, I would suggest hard anodizing with 50µm at least.

I will try to upload a thicker version if I can but I can’t promise for now.

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### Author: ![Ackermann](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/ackermann/32/34149_2.png) [@Ackermann](https://foil.zone/u/Ackermann)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/47 "2020-03-22T19:52:48Z")

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Thanks,I only can print. But it looks good, just a little fragile. I appreciate your help,  
Cheerio

 ![IMG_20200322_122655_912](https://efoil.builders/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8b7c7e7eaa07acd512c7946b74c1a6affbc4626a.jpeg)

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### Author: ![MaxMaker](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/maxmaker/32/1336_2.png) [@MaxMaker](https://foil.zone/u/MaxMaker)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/48 "2020-03-24T00:29:30Z")

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Have you got any tips for the shroud? My new 3D printer arrived and I can print that missing part now.  
What profile should I use?  
How many struts?  
What angle is best?  
How much clearance is best?

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### Author: ![sat\_be](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/sat_be/32/35523_2.png) [@sat\_be](https://foil.zone/u/sat_be)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/49 "2020-03-24T12:32:29Z")

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As a starting point, have look at Pacificmeisters build, there is a parametric prop and duct. You could adapt that parametric duct to your needs. It has six struts. I printed a modified version to fit my prop. It is printed in ASA-X and with 6 struts it’s fairly stable.

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### Author: ![sat\_be](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/sat_be/32/35523_2.png) [@sat\_be](https://foil.zone/u/sat_be)
#### Post date: [August 11, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/50 "2020-08-11T07:40:06Z")

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As PLA+ is not available in my country, should I use PolyMAx PLA: [https://www.3djake.ch/de-CH/polymaker/polymax-pla-schwarz](https://www.3djake.ch/de-CH/polymaker/polymax-pla-schwarz)  
or Polycarbonate: [https://www.3djake.ch/de-CH/polymaker/pc-max-schwarz](https://www.3djake.ch/de-CH/polymaker/pc-max-schwarz)  
to print a prop?  
Any experience with either of the above materials?  
I assume PLA to be easier to print.

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### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/51 "2020-08-26T07:13:13Z")

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I made a caeses b-series prop for 80100 motor, i’m having it printed right now. The generated geometry looks quite good, looking forward to trying it!

It’s defined to be slow to match heavy weight rider with large wing and high drag

> **[Free CAD Designs, Files & 3D Models | The GrabCAD Community Library](https://grabcad.com/library/caeses-b-series-propeller-for-efoil-2)**
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 ![caeses 13,5kn 80100 prop](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/2X/8/853845bb188edb83379c4408a87c122bd160326d.jpeg)  
Generated by Caeses B-series propeller generator, inputs:  
Dia. 150mm  
4kw@4krpm  
13.5 knots speed  
3 blade, 15 deg rake  
Axle dia 12mm  
Hole pattern to match c80100 motor

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### Author: ![sat\_be](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/sat_be/32/35523_2.png) [@sat\_be](https://foil.zone/u/sat_be)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/52 "2020-08-26T08:37:24Z")

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I was also playing with the Caeses B-series propeller generator, what did you choose for root thickness and minimum blade thickness? Not sure what the minimum for a 3d printed prop would be that it does not break. Any real world values? Prop diameter 150mm.

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### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/53 "2020-08-26T09:03:33Z")

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I let the program generate automatically with plastic as selected material. Prop will be 3d-printed with carbon fiber reinforced filament.

I have used solid PLA blades of max 2,5mm thickness on earlier props without breakage

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### Author: ![Jezza](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/54 "2020-08-26T09:34:54Z")

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Did you use the full version of Caeses or just the online generator?

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### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/55 "2020-08-26T13:39:36Z")

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just online generator.

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### Author: ![Jezza](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jezza](https://foil.zone/u/Jezza)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/56 "2020-08-26T14:01:44Z")

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For some reason when I use the online generator with plastic it stops me adjusting the hub size… Do you also have that limitation?

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### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/57 "2020-08-26T14:03:38Z")

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yes, i have same limitation, fixed it in the CAD program i use

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### Author: ![JvdZ](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@JvdZ](https://foil.zone/u/JvdZ)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/58 "2020-08-26T20:16:23Z")

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Thanks for sharing your design! Interested to see your results with this prop.

In CAD you can see in a front view that this prop has a lot of blade surface compared to my other props. It this something common in this blade design?

[Left prop design](https://efoil.builders/t/prop-design-share/5849/43) compared to yours on the right.  
 ![prop compare](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/2X/b/be99af4c2be5363a5e03160e9e2109fce804e5e4.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Larsb](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/larsb/32/31021_2.png) [@Larsb](https://foil.zone/u/Larsb)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/59 "2020-08-26T22:17:23Z")

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I would guess that it’s since i have high power at relatively low rpm defined —\> high torque needed, higher blade area. Test print done in carbon filament (professional company)

 ![image](https://efoil.builders/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1243ec4964d36ce610d1f3ae9905a60176972076.jpeg)  
There are some imperfections, hoping final print is ok

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### Author: ![JvdZ](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@JvdZ](https://foil.zone/u/JvdZ)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/60 "2020-08-28T18:51:12Z")

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I would like to share a prop design based on the blades of the post below. The blade shape is similar but thickened and modified to be usable as 3D printed prop in PLA.

> **[Prop design share](https://foil.zone/t/prop-design-share/5849/43)**
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> If someone is interested, here is a 3d model close to the one FR used to reach 50kmh the first time : Generated using the same software, I do not have that much time to tinker the different parameters so I share it “as it”. 150 mm...

The hub is modified for a PM-style setup, hub diameter 35mm, shaft 8mm. Does not fit the PM duct.

Basis specs:  
Diameter: 143mm  
Pitch: approx 168mm  
shaft: 8mm  
pin: 3mm  
Printed with supports (quite a lot) with a layer height of 0.16mm. Some postprocessing is needed.

My prop is printed in PLAcarbon with good results, feels stiff and similar to other printed props that I have. Still untested on the water! I will report back.

> **[Propellor for efoil, 143mm by JvdZ](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4582033)**
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> Propellor for DIY efoil, Pacific meister setup
> Diameter 143mm, pitch 168mm
> shaft 8mm
> pin 3mm
> Blade design from this post, thickened to be able to use 3d printed.https://efoil.builders/t/prop-design-share/5849/43

 ![Prop_3bl_143](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a70b073006bdfd9bf7105a2ed7e240156674ab01.jpeg)  
 ![Prop_3bl_143_2](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/2X/9/943be5375552c4843a467b29ac798b127fb6c258.jpeg)

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