Hi.
So, the consensus is that the Lift motor and the FR motor are the same?
I saw a picture of the internals of the Lift motor on this forum somewhere awhile back but I can’t find it now.
How many poles is the Lift/FR motor? I seam to remember it being 10 poles. Is that right?
And the 65150 is 8 poles?
Does anyone have pictures of the internals of either of these motors?
Thanks!
FR motor is 16 poles.
65140 has 6 poles.
Thx. I was way off! Do you have pics of the internals of either?
Are they calling it The 65140 now? I’ve seen a couple different names. I thought it was originally the 65150…I can’t keep it all straight. LoL
More commonly known as 65161 or 65162.
Reachertech offers 2 different versions.
Maytech offers 2 different shaft versions
Flipsky offers 1 version.
Motor is also used on Pwrfoil and some other brands…
I thought it would be appropriate to ask in this thread since I could find info on this forum about the Lift esc motor connectors.
Would anyone know what type of connectors these are? The E1 and E2 appears to have different connectors.
No one has found them yet. I haven’t looked for them in ages, but mainly because I have found my 5.5mm bullets are not overheating.
Lift might be able to sell you spares if you ask nicely.
Good approach. I might try that.
They are probably custom made…
My guess is amphenol
Do we now a bit more about the Fr Motor, because somone already created a post asking if we now where the motors get produced. I also dont know it and does anyone know some details about the FR motor. Are any compatitors besids flipsky out there that are comparable to the FR motor?
Does anyone know what hinges Lift use?. The board I saw had really nice stiff hinges so the hatch lid would hold its own weight at any angle.
Top man! Thanks @Flightjunkie
They are a reasonable price to
I’m starting to buy parts again 
Is that a picture of an old listing as I can only find them for $29?.
How do we count the number of poles and slots on the 651x1 that seems pretty messy compared to the FR crystal clear design ?
You can open one and count, or you can use an ESC that counts them (like the ARC200). I’ve done both.
Yes the 65161 is much messier than the FR motor but I guess you get what you pay for. I’m more surprised I haven’t been able to find the manufacturer of the FR motor.
But his boards might be available again through Chris in Canada soon…
Why would you ? The company making this motor will more likely only sell it to Flying Rodeo. They won’t sell it to anyone else, David sure have the Product’s exclusivity, otherwise Lift would have bypassed him long time ago
Lift had their direct drive first, so FR either located the manufacturer or reverse engineered it and got his own made. Either way it was after he bought the Lift board that he changed his design from a gear to a direct drive. Lift might very well not be buying the motors from David, but directly from the manufacturer. All we know is that they are the same motors.
I’ll give you that. However, if you look back at FR’s Instagram when he was still running a geared drive and teased his direct drive motor, he said “patent pending design”. What I think is that David indeed reverse engineered the old Lift motor and then asked a company, pretty sure someone he knows personally, to manufacture it. He of course owns the motor design because he paid for it. This way he would be the only one to sell it.
I think the first generation of Lift foils was using the motors from Reachertech / Flipsky /…. They were buying it directly from the manufacturer. Once they broke the contract with him, the manufacturer started to sell it to other companies.
This is only my 2 cents.
No that’s not what happened. The original Lift motor dimensions are different to the 65161 motor and also have a different internal design. They are very similar to the FR motor dimension wise. Anyone can say ‘patent pending’ on any design, but that patent depends on which country its based in…
In a SupMike link, found some connectors used by LIFT from the German manufacturer ODU:
The Hydrofoil electric surfboard from MHL Custom/Lift Foils requires a connection that is highly current-carrying. At a top speed of up to 40 km/h, it must also be vibration- and shock-resistant. Furthermore a corrosion-resistant connector is required which prevent the ingress of water.
With a current carrying capacity of up to 2,400 A the ODU LAMTAC® is the perfect solution. The lamella slats result in a large number of contact points that create a reliable connection. The customized solution of the ODU LAMTAC® is applied between the speed controller, the motor and the battery. This allows the controller to be operated.
ODU MINI-SNAP® Series K is used for secure transmission of sensitive data between the battery and the control unit. In this application, it is characterized by high reliability, a robust metal housing and a high level of sealing.
