# Wing and stab recommendation for 25 knots
**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118
**Category:** Foils & Boards
**Created:** [November 2, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118 "2019-11-02T16:34:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@Riwi](https://foil.zone/u/Riwi)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/1 "2019-11-02T16:34:29Z")
Hi!
I’m modifying my first build to be able to run faster. I will keep the nobile mast and hiorth propulsion unit.
I need recommendations on wing and stab combo that work in high speed.
Making an adapter between mast and new fuselage looks like the best solution.
I’m 75kg, board is approx 8 and another 11kg for the batteries.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@Alexandre](https://foil.zone/u/Alexandre)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/2 "2019-11-02T19:36:32Z")
I would say the RL foil is a nice option and you can easily drill the fuselage to fit other mast
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### Author:  [@Riwi](https://foil.zone/u/Riwi)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/3 "2019-11-02T19:38:41Z")
Do you mean the older Moses or is there a new one?
How is it to ride? How does it balance at speeds between 20-30knots?
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### Author:  [@Alexandre](https://foil.zone/u/Alexandre)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/4 "2019-11-02T19:45:57Z")
I mean this wing
[Carbon wings optimized profile for e-foils now available - Foils & Boards - FOIL.zone](https://efoil.builders/t/carbon-wings-optimized-profile-for-e-foils-now-available/2230)
Many people use it here , i have it but just missing time to learn with it
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### Author:  [@Riwi](https://foil.zone/u/Riwi)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/5 "2019-11-02T19:49:14Z")
To much lift
“start elevating at 15km/h with 100kg”
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### Author:  [@Vicdes2](https://foil.zone/u/Vicdes2)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/6 "2019-11-02T22:21:22Z")
Maybe the liquid force thruster! Someone on this forum apparently reached 50km/h with his gear set up with the thruster. Plus, the specs say it is a fast foil.
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### Author:  [@Rienk](https://foil.zone/u/Rienk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 12:03pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/7 "2019-11-03T12:03:54Z")
I have it and yes, I do think this speed is possible. I must say that I did not measure it with gps but my first foil did 37km/h and this one feels a lot faster.
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### Author:  [@Vicdes2](https://foil.zone/u/Vicdes2)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/8 "2019-11-03T12:24:10Z")
Do you know if there is any way to fit the thruster wings on a regular LF fuselage or do you need the profiled fuselage that comes with the thruster kit?
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### Author:  [@Rienk](https://foil.zone/u/Rienk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/9 "2019-11-03T12:36:29Z")
I think you need the hd fuselage because the shape off the wing fits in the cutout of this fuselage.
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### Author:  [@Vicdes2](https://foil.zone/u/Vicdes2)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/10 "2019-11-03T12:41:36Z")
That’s what I thought! Thanks!! Also, at what speed do you usually take off with that wing?
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### Author:  [@Rienk](https://foil.zone/u/Rienk)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/wing-and-stab-recommendation-for-25-knots/6118/11 "2019-11-03T15:18:22Z")
I can take off at around 20km/h but I am only 60kg.