# Zephyr Foil Build Log. Stage 1: CAD, Design Summary and Build Plan

**URL:** https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963
**Category:** Builds
**Created:** [February 22, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963 "2021-02-22T17:50:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author: ![RC\_guy](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f4b2a3/32.png) [@RC\_guy](https://foil.zone/u/RC_guy)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/22 "2021-03-08T06:37:33Z")

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Nice design Zephir! You never wanted to join force in the end? I would still like to talk to you although I’ve seen what a prop will do to fingers and I don’t like the potential of many curious people wanting to see such a thing up close, I think I will wait to see if a jet drive version can be made more efficiently in the future. Not to mention the stupid Canadian regulations.  
Anyways you have my number and I’ll be happy to have a little chat if you’re up to it. Cheers and really nice work so far

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### Author: ![freshwaterfoil](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/85f322/32.png) [@freshwaterfoil](https://foil.zone/u/freshwaterfoil)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/23 "2021-03-10T16:18:47Z")

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Has the issue of open vs enclosed prop been sorted out in Canada yet? Last time I was riding up there, my Lift, with the standard duct, was considered an open prop by the marine police (a number of other people confirmed similar experiences)

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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/24 "2021-03-22T21:51:20Z")

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I don’t think the issue has been sorted out. I heard that there was a transport Canada hearing back in November to discuss modifying the current rules.

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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/25 "2021-03-22T21:58:27Z")

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I received the motor, esc, and remote from HGLtech last week. My initial impressions are pretty positive. I haven’t had a chance to spin it up yet, hopefully this weekend.  
For what it is worth, the packaging the parts came in was excellent. The motor and esc feel very solid and their dimensions match the drawings provided.  
The remote feels light and cheap, the case isn’t waterproof, there are holes through it. But the circuits inside may be potted in resin, I will have to open it up to check.  
The motor is heavier than I expected. Based on the weight I will need to modify my motor mount. There will a post with the modified design soon.

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/f/4/f40840cffa2e8d924f1c8b1984b6f6b300c63b9e.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/d/8/d854ffb39487cd98fb63b7e9491432e4f16a1d63.jpeg)  
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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [March 31, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/26 "2021-03-31T00:11:58Z")

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Started carving the foam!

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/2/9/294bb1466d03cb672fd5370bf42845de8cd591aa.jpeg)  
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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/27 "2021-04-18T14:38:50Z")

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April 18th update:

I’ve been working on the board. Machined all 18 blocks and glued them together:

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/f/a/faa5006bc71e014215a7836e59f2c1cb867d09f8.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/b/8/b8050b8bde58cfaf90e8a7079de00102ed150067.jpeg)  
A few machining mistakes can been seen. The 2" thickness was really pushing the limits of my mill. But it came together pretty well with only a bit of filler needed.  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/7/c/7cbc746e71cda18c24f1bf3752fc61b0481bb9ea.jpeg)

The laminate is one ply on 9oz carbon against the foam, then two plies of 6oz glass. I also added extra carbon around nose.  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/b/1/b1f16ff2198fdaafefbd807cdd8184b9bf087893.jpeg)

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/f/3/f3f058f017d2b3e94f2eb55b493f31b0dc21cebf.jpeg)  
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 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/3/8/38c73a9d4c521dc882e51bea70261ba311b5c1c3.jpeg)  
The compartment is a bit of a mess. I need to trim off all the over hanging material once cured then add more glass.  
Lot’s of sanding and finishing to come.

On another note. I finally was able to dial in the nylon-carbonX filament. I’ve had some great prints with it.  
The duct (still to be wrapped in carbon)

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/2/3/2381604924dbd1b982f403edd13232990ed8ba5a.jpeg)  
New Duct design:  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/c/b/cbaa77f9ef5d4d876c8c67fa553d9af0c7c9caa0.jpeg)

The NCX filament is so good that I printed the motor bracket with it.  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/4/1/41d8e57d7f0de0275a139fe666020e22b722db60.jpeg)

 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/b/6/b6a11ebb9ec8edd8f88eb86e474cfc5668bcaf5c.jpeg)  
This will have a fairing covering it:  
 ![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/0/3/03f63eb1af035963c445697e2d88e107993c38d7.png)  
I recently got a resin 3D printer, so I will be printing all these parts in a very strong resin.

Stay tuned for more!

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### Author: ![Kiteman54](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/kiteman54/32/106_2.png) [@Kiteman54](https://foil.zone/u/Kiteman54)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/28 "2021-04-19T23:40:17Z")

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Looking good. We need to come up with a good way of glassing the battery compartment? maybe glass over a plug and push it in cured?

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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/29 "2021-04-21T00:34:54Z")

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Thanks! If I were to do it again I would use a plug, or even build the box outside and then bond it in. For now I am going to finish it up with a few more strategically placed pieces of fiber glass. It doesn’t need to be pretty, just to work.

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### Author: ![Kiteman54](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/kiteman54/32/106_2.png) [@Kiteman54](https://foil.zone/u/Kiteman54)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/30 "2021-04-22T01:43:13Z")

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I like your idea of building it outside. Nice round corners to be able to clean easily, then epoxy it into a hole in the foam. You could added threaded inserts behind it to be able to screw things down, like the battery, or the Controller box or hold the hose in place.

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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/31 "2021-04-25T02:48:46Z")

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![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/d/f/df31b90adf64005d45cfd2d16ef7a552cd6d3191.jpeg)  
Printed the case for the motor. Starting to get all the parts together

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### Author: ![flyer](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flyer](https://foil.zone/u/flyer)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/32 "2021-12-30T23:09:40Z")

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![image](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/0/3/03f63eb1af035963c445697e2d88e107993c38d7.png)

this 65162 mount looks good. Did you design it? Is it available as .step somewhere so I could modify it for a liquid force mast?

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### Author: ![brycej](https://foil.zone/user_avatar/foil.zone/brycej/32/10595_2.png) [@brycej](https://foil.zone/u/brycej)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/33 "2022-01-10T17:56:25Z")

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I had designed a similar type mast clamp here if you wanted to mess with it:

[https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1\_8IsM6DGIeTbIgT40DYoQuyvxMzkfSiy?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_8IsM6DGIeTbIgT40DYoQuyvxMzkfSiy?usp=sharing)

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### Author: ![Richard](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Richard](https://foil.zone/u/Richard)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/34 "2022-03-09T00:56:31Z")

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Hi Zephyr,

Have you completed your Efoil and using it?

Richard

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### Author: ![Zephyr](https://foil.zone/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zephyr](https://foil.zone/u/Zephyr)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://foil.zone/t/zephyr-foil-build-log-stage-1-cad-design-summary-and-build-plan/11963/35 "2023-04-02T02:25:23Z")

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Unfortunately this is still an ongoing project. After I first launched it I discovered the lid was not watertight, when my esc and batteries were destroyed. So awhile later I tried again with a backup esc that is much too small, and everything within waterproof cases.

The little esc kept overheating, so I never really got to test it for long enough, but it is short on horsepower, and the board is way to heavy.  
Over the winter I have built another board, that is smaller and built to be lighter and much more watertight. And I replaced the esc. I hope this helps with the horsepower.  
I’m also planning on adding watercooling, but it will have to be from a reservoir in the board, there is no room in the mast. Hopefully it helps anyways.

 ![IMG_0905](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/1/2/1265fdb0ac2a988f0ad3ae413a2a2c819c23df13.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_0904](https://foil.zone/uploads/default/original/3X/a/d/ad5fa574e7bbe955d518cc8ff6806ae165f56725.jpeg)

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