If making a TFT/LCD screen waterproof is difficult, making the joystick waterproof will be almost impossible!
If you use a stick with hallsensors no need make it waterproof
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I think for precise speed/throttle control the finger-actuated trigger-style solution is the way to go. State of the art solution for almost all eFoil in the market as well as RC cars, etc. Everywhere precise and intuitive throttle is needed basically.
Joystick is nice for x/y movement for sure, but I don’t see it as the solution here.
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Another feature that I would like is if the remote could function as a BLE peripheral. I’m currently developing a foiling app for the Apple Watch and iPhone and if you exposed telemetry from the vesc over BLE I could show lots of data on the Apple Watch that might be difficult to squeeze into the dot-matrix display. This way we could get a great display without all the trouble of waterproofing the remote. It would also be easy to log data from the ride as well.
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Sure, the module has BLE. Lets get together soon and think of a data format, etc.
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Probably the best screen on any waterproof remote out there. 
In combination with the super easy to read dot matrix display on the actual BREmote it’s pretty hard to beat. We just have to figure out what data to display and log.
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I’m not huge into data logging, but that Apple Watch app looks like it would be super cool. So, it would be cool to be able to read one wire telemetry data from the dumb speed controllers like the flycolor x cross.
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I second a lot of @jenz 's suggestions:
- GPS in the Tx and Rx would be awesome. Even if we don’t get follow right away, something easy like a vibrating alert if you get farther than a preset distance from the boogie would be really nice.
- BLE peripheral make a ton of sense (publishing tx and rx gps data would be sweet)
- I love the simplicity of the simple display.
- It might be nice to think about one more form of input. It seems like if you have steering on your boogie, the current inputs are pretty fully utilized. If you are thinking about different modes like follow in the future, might be nice to have another button or toggle or something to get a little more information from the user.
What sort of timeline are you thinking about for this? Very exciting!
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Progress update:
I have rached a mechanical design I like
And played around with the matrix display a bit.
I created a “Frankenstein” V1.5 remote, with V1 electronics (apart from the display) and V2 housing. Intending to send this to friends within germany/EU for them to test out the shape and useability on the water with eFoil and boogie.
Findings so far: Assembly is much easier, Toggle/Steer has way more precision
Next step: Design electronics
This is also where the progress will slow down a bit, as iterations take weeks now rather than hours printing a new part at home. So don’t take this post the wrong way, the real V2 won’t be available in the next months already.
If you want to get a feeling for the shape, I will upload the mech. files in a few days, so you can try it out. If you are within EU and a hardcore boggie rider, feel free to PM me if you want to try the Frankenstein. It is compatible with the normal and LR V1 receivers you already have.
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I am so excited about this!!
Nice, looks familiar 
But this trigger will break very easy. I had the same style first too, then redesigned it to the “massive” version. If there is any possibility, you should make it more stable, or create and arc around it
It is also handy if it is easily replaceable in the field, should it break.
Yes, I took some inspiration from other designs on the market, the grip is inspired by your design as well as the Milwaukee cutoff saw.
Both the trigger and the selector are removable with one screw. Easy to replace and customizable.
The trigger is twice as thick as the one on the V1 remote, even that I never managed to break.
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Is it not worth having a simple circular design for the battery housing and then letting each individual create a sleeve that runs over it. That way the sleeve can be customised according to hand size.
This is kind of how the Lift remote was done:
Yes, thats also possible. The handle is a separate part to the rest of the construction (similar like in the V1 design)
I will standardize the interface to the “head” as well as a minimum components space, so anyone can do a custom handle
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I like the idea of a new version of the remote, but I don’t like the ergonomics. Here is a photo of the natural movement of the thumb when gripping the handle and how it will be positioned with the current version of the remote control.
So where / how would you position the toggle?
I don’t find the current design uncomfortable to be honest
And that’s the reason to send around the remote, to get feedback on this
You can also print the empty parts and try it out if you want
At least for me the thumb is still bend forward, like your first image
I think keeping the thumb in that position in thin air is pretty uncomfortable. Resting it on something that you keep in your hand feels pretty natural though.
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