Yes, we feel its the best way to keep every part of all electronics ESC/Motor lubed, cool, and protected from salt water. Water cooled heat sinks works OK but cooling using cooled oil is far superior in my opinion.
That oil should work for a sealed outrunner then too…
should but outrunners in liquid have a ton of drag in myopinion even if sealed
I prefer this stuff over Diala
I’ve used both. The EDM fluid is “green”, and much cleaner to work with. Both transfer heat well. Diala is nasty stuff to get out of clothes, etc… This edm is not oily at all. Its from your neck of the woods too(windsor,ont).
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I would also recommend degassing this oil. It works so much better when you do.
how do you degas oil, please tell more and Ill look into that other oil, thanks!
this is one way(degassing chamber)
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Cant it just be heated to above 100°C?
I would think when the motor cools it will solidify.
ok, i think about using the same process as clarifying butter. To get rid of water and other volatile compounds, just heat it up to the right temperature. Might be easier than vacuum.
all of the above works best…vacuum, heat and filter. I agree it sounds like a good process though.
I have 2 efoil designs now…one with oil filled chamber and the other running directly in water using your motor. I stalled out on the board. Everything else works great.
Once I figure out what to do about a board, I will post all that I’ve done. I want to share like the rest of you great people! The sharing community lifts everyone up to a new potential. Its pretty cool.
I actually have a blank that’s been CNC’d…I’m just reading now how to shape and glass. I’m sure its not too tough though…
cheers
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The most reliable way seems to be with water cooling. Mine uses a combination of water pressure and a small diaphragm pump. The scoop has a smaller hole for the water to escape than enter thus creating pressure when the board is moving and electronics need most cooling. There is a coarse filter that stops anything that could block the intake tubing but doesn’t affect the flow to much.
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To ESC expert: is there a link between ESC heating up quicly and Duty Cycle ?
During the static tests, the motor maxed out so the Duty Cycle stayed low: 35%.
Does a low Duty Cycle generate more heat on the Mosfets/ESC ?
Well, there are some effects causing heating different components
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Low duty cycle and low rpm, while high load makes it hard for the ESC to keep on track (since we use sensorless motors), that can also be seen, if you start the motor and have some resistance, the motor might jitter till the first revolution. Since typically the currents are low, this is not really an issue, still you might see some current spikes (after a wrong commutation).
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50% Dutycycle is bad for the caps, since they must buffer/deliver the most energy at 50% duty, so this is when the caps can get really hot.
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High (phase) currents. Phase current is independent of Duty cycle. Phase current directly transfers to torque. So whenever you have a high torque load, no matter what the duty is, you will have high currents and thus a lot of heating at the resistance (like shunts and Mosfets) of the ESC.
What does that mean? You made thrust test and the esc limited the motor at 35% duty, so it maxed out?
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Thanks for the answers
Yes, I did a static thrust test. I designed a propeller with a pretty high pitch, so it maxed out at 34%,105A motor and 40A ESC
This is my setup for cooling. Electronics box have a small gap to board, this is fed with water through the pipe in the top of the top picture. Controller is mounted with an alu plate towards the water.
I must say that passive/active water cooling with a water pressure fed hose inlet in mast is the cleanest way to get the cooling.
-cheap
-light
-effective
-easy
Wouldn’t bother getting either pump, thermostat or any other stuff, more failure points added.
Please help me. I want to know how can the plumb take water from altitude(height)?
In fact does it always work continuously?
As long as your board is moving forward and the water line is open to the direction of travel there will be plenty of water passing through.
Can you show me some photos or videos in that the water through out the board from height
Could you please explain more about the potential for spikes … and frying the ESC with long battery wires? I would like to have the ESC in the mast which would require running 1m power cables between battery and ESC. I take it going to 8WG won’t help? Therefore, what capacitors and where? Thanks …