Foil Assist Project - Italian build

Hi everybody,
after e ton of work in developing and builds I would like to share my entire project of foil assist.
My challenge was also to develope a new remote controller and receiver for the board which I describe in an other topic of foil.zone
In the website www.foilassistproject.com is possible to find more details for each parts

Foil Assist system features:

  • Brushless Motor: 6384 or 6374 with ceramic bearings
  • Battery: 36V 463Wh - 10s3p - Molicell P42A or P45B
  • Motor controller: VESC 75100
  • Remote controller: TecnoFly Controller - (My project)
  • Propeller: Carbon fiber blades - Own solution

Main block diagram
For motor controller I used the VESC 75100 connected to my custom receiver of the TecnoFly remote controller. The receiver’s processor stores many electric datas on the internal SD Card every second during the ride.
This is very important to figure out the performances or issues on the system but also the improvements of the use of the assist system.
Firmware upgrade by wifi directly from the server





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On your website there is this mount.
Is it good? Do you have more pictures?

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Hi it works well and is very fast solution to mount the motor on the mast, just 2 cable ties and tape on the cable


pod section

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Thanks. It will be a great adjustable option for motor mount.
Will you make a video how to use it - it will be more clear. Thanks. I am subscribed already to your youtube channel

Using the system

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Hi. nice build. What is the plug you are using on the motor cable? Im struggling to find a waterproof 3 pin plug.

Hi,
you can find more info on my web site : www.foilassistproject.com
Actually the connector is not really waterproof, but using dielectric grease is working fine. The contact is really strong and work fine at motor’s current up to 70A
After soldering I close the connector with epoxy resin
I have a plan to complete it with a seal very soon

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Hey Roberto,

I’m designing a box for a board, currently planned to go on top. Dimensions: 30cm x 17cm x 24mm (30cm sideways).

I’m considering adapting this design to fit within the board structure, and I have a few questions:

  1. How much time such a work takes - to create a space for a box in the board?
  2. Are these dimensions suitable for inserting into an existing board?
  3. What’s the optimal design approach? What would you do?

The goal is to use a compact ~50L board that’s versatile, including pumping. The box should be at the center of lift. Undecided on replaceable batteries.

For context - I’m new to board rigidity concepts. Initially thought of an add-on system, but now considering in-board placement might be better.

Thoughts? Advice appreciated!

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Is one of these dimensions wrong?

The dimensions are correct.
30cm x 17cm x 24mm
300x170x24mm
30x17x2.4cm

I have a freind who is worried of getting electrified. My design is planned to be waterproof, but who knows.

1 battery on edge i presume

I think the design of the battery is one of first decisions in the project, than the box and its position.
Your approch is thin battery for thin board, this means compact board less than 50L for sure. My smaller board is 43L (4.5’ x 22") with the same box.
Electrical observation:

  • In your design the battery pack is 10s2P (21700). I strongly suggest 12s2P, less current for two pack in parallel to get a good trust for take off (motor 120KV)
  • I suggest BMS inside.
    mechanical observations:
  • The dimension of your case are suitable with a board integration structure. No problem
  • The battery case must be waterproof to change it on top of the board (very difficult) and big surface, not perfet condition for the feet

design of my battery pack:



board section:

your solution comparation, battery only:

Thank you

The battery is planned to be on top of the board, and placed sideways 30cm wide (34cm if 12s), meaning the battery takes only 17cm between the feet. The minimum stance is 35cm distance between the feet. If the battery enalrged to 12s3p , it then will be 25cm long. Do you think it is a problem to stand?

Thanks.
In case the battery placed inside the board the orientation is changed to length wise.

It is designed to be waterproof with several layers of protection.

People here usually don’t put bms and even if they put, then only for charging. Me too treat bms as not reliable.

To conclude, I was wondering, can I place the same design inside the board. And if understood you correctly, you confirm that.

I like your design very much , just I am not sure that I want to make board modifications. I plan to build this not only for me.

How wide is the flat area on top of your board above the wing ?

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I just never worked on a board. How many working hours required to fit such flat or such as your battery into existing board?

measures of mid lenght board for wing convertible to drive assisted:
60 liters:


CNC machine view:

vacuum bag:

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How many hours of actual work the board itself took to build?
The battery placed above the wing?
Do you like pumping it?