Foil Drive Assist, DIY

Man this is awesome! SMART! Would love to try this clamp out on my Axis mast! I cant seem to download the file from the Fusion link you posted. I think file sharing through those links requires a premium membership. Could you share the fusion file some other way? Im running a flipsky motor so would probably need to modify the bolt hole pattern.

This mount is awesome. Nice work!

Thanks also for sharing the fusion link but the link shared doesn’t allow download. Is there any way you could change the settings for us to try it out?

Thanks for the extra info on this pablo_foil. I think I will go for 6s4p.

Ok, i have the same and works fine. Total weight =3.75kg, so not the lightest out there.

Just one comment.
What is your intended use? As a foildrive its a bit overkill since you get more than 10min ride time and 3p have proven enough in many builds. But if you want to play a bit with it then it should be ok. But then you could consider using 8s, as was suggested here and in the assistplus

Hi pablo_foil,

My plan was to build an assist plus version. I’m 90kg and would be on a SUP foil board. Maybe the 8S3P will be the one I need then. I don’t need to foil in flat water. I just want to catch loads of waves. I just want to make sure I have enough power for plenty of waves. So then, in your opinion, 6S3P 21700 or 8S3P 21700?

Thanks,

James

If you are not constrained by weight or esc, I’d go for 8s3p. Just make sure your batteries can deliver high amps, like the p42…
6s is kind of the bare minimum and for your weight you’d probably have to paddle to get started.

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My old box was leaking so I purchased a new one. Same as FD but without the clear lid. Have had great success with a cooling fan on the esc



efoiling for short time frames and using it as an assist.

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In my previous setup, I was successfully running a 150A Marine ESC. It worked very well and I got immediately full power and was able to ride.

I’ve now moved to Maker X GO FOC SV6 - FW 5.2. Still on 6S.

Went through normal setup in FOC and I tried it yesterday on the water… I couldn’t even lift the foil. I believe my VESC conf requires more tuning. I was about to switch to BLDC but still wondering if I can’t get it working perfectly on FOC.

I had Motor Current Max setup to 54A (this is done via detection) and I’m now moving it to 90A. Same for Current Max Brake (which I don’t care that much)

I’m using Graphene 6S1P & Motor is N6374 130kv - Current Control

I’ve also installed the no hw limit firmware for VESC

Did I miss something ? @Manufoil @Alexandre any thoughts?

It looks great the way it is all put together. I am a complete beginner and only just started gathering my bits for my first build. I’m surprised a fan in a sealed box works so well but it sounds like a route I should consider. How does the heat dissipate when it is all sealed?

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I have the same MakerX VESC. It worked fine for one time testing but then just died. No idea what is wrong, no 5vdc output from BEC and it doesn’t run the motor. Does not smell burnt. Their customer service is terrible…I don’t recommend buying their products. I have since received a Flipsky VESC. I cannot remember the name of it but it’s similar in size and specs to the Maker X. So far, it works well during testing. It is very nice to have data displayed on the Maytech remote. I will test in the surf soon and I also have a R/C type ESC to try afterwards.

did you manage to connect to VESCTOOL and flash the firmware?

did you run the flipsky VESC on the water so far?

I did connect and program the Flipsky VESC, and yes, update firmware. I have tested it only in a pool, not on the ocean yet.

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what settings did you go for ?

I am using the 6374 motor and 8S lipo. If I remember correctly, I am using FOC and 60 amps limit for motor and 100 amps for battery. I’m using a 6” prop that is nearly identical to genuine Foildrive and it only draws 23 amps at full throttle.

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So it doesn’t really dissipate, but having forced air over the heat sink (even warm air) seems to help a bunch. I built an Efoil the same way with only a fan on the esc in an enclosed box with no issues. The longer the run the more heat build up until the lid gets opened to switch out batteries.

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Post screenshot of VESC tools mate

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It should work - I’m using the free version and someone above ended up getting to work. I’ll have a look at settings and see if I can change something. Otherwise I might have to signup to thingiverse and upload that way :slight_smile:
Larger hole pattern should be better

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I was similar using FOC mode on a similar setup - I kept getting fault cut-outs when pushing over about 50 Amps with a similar motor. Tried for a while and referred to other forum topics that cover FOC issues with VESC (mine was a DRV related fault).

Ended up getting frustrated with the number of times bailing over the front when it cutout :joy: and changed the settings from FOC to BLDC mode and haven’t had an issue since. I only really draw 60Amps peak on my setup - yes the BLDC is slightly noisier but I couldn’t justify spending more time on it.

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I’ve been able to run mine in full efoil mode (30-40Amps continuous) until the battery dies. ESC gets up to about 65C. I have just mounted it hard up against the plastic side wall and it hasn’t come close to overheating. I’m using this VESC VESC 6 MkVI TRAMPA

I like the fan concept though. Anything that avoids another hole in the case is good.

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thanks, for some reasons the motor detection in BLDC fails.