Motor won’t stop spinnning (ARC200 & Maytech set up)

What prop are you running?

Pacific 3 blade Rev_2

You using a 500kv with 5:1 gear? If so you shouldn’t be pulling 200a.

Exactly that is why I’m so confused of the situation!!!

Current Setup:
ESC: Arc200
Battery: (2 in series) Turnigy Multistar 6S 20000mAh 10C (20C Peak Discharge)
Gearbox: Parker PV40TN-005 5:1
Motor: SSS 56104/500KV
Foil: CR:X
Propeller: Pacific’s 3 Blade Propeller (Rev3)

Time for a better prop I think.
Then whats your config?

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comboParam$Control Mode$Speed Mode (RPM)
numericParam$Current Command Offset$-0.15$A/(VDC * PWMdec)
numericParam$Torque-Forward-Only Regen Foldback Start-Below PWM$2$% PWM
numericParam$Smart Reversal Threshold$10$A
numericParam$Smart Reversal Time$10$ms
comboParam$Input Throttle Mode$PWM Throttle on Encoder Line
numericParam$Input Throttle Min$19446$
numericParam$Input Throttle Max$28931$
numericParam$Input Throttle Zero Neutral$24194$
numericParam$Input Throttle Deadband$474.25$+/-
numericParam$Input Brake Min$0$
numericParam$Input Brake Max$65535$
comboParam$Sensored vs. Sensorless$Sensorless
comboParam$Sensorless Speed-Mode Startup$Ramp Mode
comboParam$Sensorless Torque-Mode Startup$Jitter Start
comboParam$Sensored Mode$3 Hall Sensor
numericParam$Sensored Offset$1$
comboParam$Sensored Hall Code$A (120 deg)
numericParam$Sensored Abs. Encoder Min$0$
numericParam$Sensored Abs. Encoder Max$65535$
numericParam$Sensorless Transition Start$100000$RPM
numericParam$Sensorless Transition End$150000$RPM
numericParam$Quadrature Cal Current$0$A
numericParam$Pole Pairs$3$Pairs
numericParam$Resistance$18.63997$mOhms
numericParam$Inductance$7.4$uH
numericParam$KV$0.001171576$Vp/RPM
numericParam$Overvoltage Cutoff$52$V
numericParam$Overvoltage Foldback Start$52$V
numericParam$Undervoltage Cutoff$38.4$V
numericParam$Undervoltage Foldback Start$40.8$V
numericParam$Max Battery Draw$150$A
numericParam$Max Battery Regen$10$A
numericParam$Max Phase Regen Current A$0$A
numericParam$Max Phase Regen Current B$0$A
numericParam$Max Phase Accel Current A$0$A
numericParam$Max Phase Accel Current B$0$A
numericParam$Max Phase Accel Current MIN$150$A
numericParam$Max Phase Accel Current MAX$150$A
numericParam$Max Phase Regen Current MIN$0$A
numericParam$Max Phase Regen Current MAX$0$A
numericParam$ESC Temp Cutoff$85$Deg C
numericParam$ESC Temp Foldback Start$75$Deg C
numericParam$Forward RPM Foldback Start$23300$RPM
numericParam$Forward RPM Foldback End$23300.0$RPM
numericParam$Reverse RPM Foldback Start$0$RPM
numericParam$Reverse RPM Foldback End$0$RPM
numericParam$RPM Closed Loop 1$666.7$RPM
numericParam$RPM Closed Loop 2$333.4$RPM
numericParam$Jitter Frequency$10$Hz
numericParam$Jitter Current Multiplier$3$x
numericParam$Jitter Advancement Time$50$ms
numericParam$Ramp Current$32.8$A
numericParam$Ramp Rate$133.3$RPM/s
numericParam$DQ Park Filter$0$ms
numericParam$Super-DQ Park Filter$5$ms
numericParam$Q-Current Int A$0$V/(A-s)
numericParam$Q-Current Int B$0$V/(A-s)
numericParam$Q-Current Int MIN$3.34$V/(A-s)
numericParam$Q-Current Int MAX$3.34$V/(A-s)
numericParam$Q-Current Proportional$0.051$V/A
numericParam$D-Current Int A$0$V/(A-s)
numericParam$D-Current Int B$0$V/(A-s)
numericParam$D-Current Int MIN$3.34$V/(A-s)
numericParam$D-Current Int MAX$3.34$V/(A-s)
numericParam$D-Current Proportional$0.0501$V/A
numericParam$Q-Current Int Startup$3.34$V/(A-s)
numericParam$Q-Current Proportional Startup$0.051129$V/(A-s)
numericParam$RPM Deriv Filt$0$ms
numericParam$Super-Diff$0$Vs^3/RPM
numericParam$Forward RPM Command Max$23300$RPM
numericParam$Reverse RPM Command Max$0$RPM
numericParam$Slew Up A$0$RPM/s
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numericParam$Slew Up MIN$10000$RPM/s
numericParam$Slew Up MAX$10000$RPM/s
numericParam$Slew Down A$0$RPM/s
numericParam$Slew Down B$0$RPM/s
numericParam$Slew Down MIN$40000$RPM/s
numericParam$Slew Down MAX$40000$RPM/s
numericParam$KP Up A$0$A/RPM
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numericParam$KP Down B$0$A/RPM
numericParam$KP Down MIN$0.02$A/RPM
numericParam$KP Down MAX$0.02$A/RPM
numericParam$RPM Integrator$0$A/(RPM-s)
numericParam$RPM Integrator Max$0$A
numericParam$Thrust Drag$0$A/RPM^2
numericParam$Angle P Gain$1$RPM/Deg
numericParam$Angle D Gain$1$RPM-command/RPM
numericParam$Flux VIR HPF$500$ms
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numericParam$Sensorless Angle Filter$4$ms
numericParam$Speed Filter$6$ms
numericParam$Minimum Diff Flux$0.00062825$Delta-Wb

so are you already riding when it hits the high current? Is it a spike or prolonged value?
Maybe download the log and graph it in excel, then past the graph here.

Can I email you the excel log or is there a different method that works better?

Yes I am about 10-20 seconds into the ride and usually just standing up to start getting the lift

Alright I just updated the firmware of my ARC200 and now I am unable to stop my motor via the control once above 10000 RPM or so. This is the EXACT SAME config that I had been running with without any throttle issues. Also the ARC200 has a continuous fast paced blue led blinking. This most likely is a signal of poor communication between the transmitter and the ARC200 itself. Very strange to say the least

Hi @Tim_Kirkpatrick this is very interesting! This is exactly what I have been experiencing over the last few weeks as you know. The motor starts and at very low rpm’s I have control via the remote ( I can stop and start it) then once it gets up to a certain rpm it just keeps spinning with no response from the remote. From memory I also think the blue light flashes as you describe but I’ll check today. With a lot of help from @Jezza I have tried many configurations on the ARC and nothing is fixing it. I too am running the latest version of the firmware

What’s the number of the firmware you were using before.

Last week I did a test with a cheap 20A rc plane esc with a 3S battery and didn’t have any issues with control at all

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What firmware version are you running?
What mode is it in?

At work so not 100% sure but I believe it was released in July 2019 and is 1.11 firmware but I’d have to double check

Well I’m not exactly sure. Bought it second hand before I revert back I’m going to try some different configurations

Use 1.1.10 GUI and 1.1.10 Firmware.

Hi @Tim_Kirkpatrick how are you getting on. Have you reverted back to your old firmware or have you managed to get it to stop spinning using the latest firmware?

Sorry bud I haven’t gotten a chance to reconfig it yet! Been out on the lake enjoying the perfect weather. I’m also building a test cell so I can properly determine what the hell my problem is. Sick of taking 45 minutes to set it up and drag it to the middle of the lake and see that I still have the same issue🙈

Alright if the ARC200 is still flashing a rapid blue signal configure your throttle settings. Send the updated settings and write to flash. After completing this hit the disconnect/STOP button in the GUI. Unplug your battery connection. Power of receiver. Now once the ARC200 is powered back up and reconnected the the GUI you will have a solid green LED indicator.

I believe that the ARC200 was looking for the neutral throttle input but couldnt find it. So after reconfiguring your throttle and disconnecting the next power cycle receives the throttle position it is expecting and powers up cleanly.

@shoresup This is the key to the puzzle!!!

Just made some revisions to the drive settings and found that this was the main ingredient!

@RamsUK set your max battery regen to 10A

Also I am currently still using the latest firmware available

Hi @Tim_Kirkpatrick

Thanks for the advice, managed to get a solid green light for the first time ever but had to use a different remote and receiver. Also checked my max battery regen and it’s already set to 10A

Even though I now have the green light the motor still keeps on spinning and I lose all control after a certain RPM

I think I am going to try and older version of the gui and the firmware and just make sure the match