If guys are reporting top speeds of only 30Kph, the only wing that will help them get to 40Kph is one that contains a faster motor. There is no way changing the wing will gain them 10Kph. I suspect their setup simply isn’t capable of it at all…
Yes, of course people want to fly that fast. There are people still trying to push the max speed because that’s what they enjoy. I like being able to outrun all the annoying wakeboarding boats and that requires 20+ mph speed.
According to his posts on Facebook he got a full refund because the board was too slow. Hopefully the Kickstarter boards are better but I doubt it.
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Well I think they just limited the max RPM, as this motor is one of the strongest on the market…so a prop with higher pitch should definately bring it to 40kph+…
What makes you think this 
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not thinking it, knowing;-) (of course only comparing direct drive)
If you know, what are the specs and where is the proof?
I suspect it’s similar to the 65161 motor…
It has bigger core and much more poles… Go test it, ride it, there should be one around you soon;-)
How big is the core? How many poles?
Maybe available in a few months for DiYers then 
Well, I am sorry to disapoint you on this point then. This is not the case. Waydoo’s direct drive is a 10 poles motor. There are other manufacturers out there building or already running higher poles motor for same diameter if not slightly bigger, which means more torque too (of course the core lenght is still comparable).
Unless you tested this motor on a test bench with proven results, you can’t say this. You have your opinion which we respect, but this statement about the fact that this is the “strongest” on the market is not correct. I know what I am talking about…
if you say so … I believe in 12 
…no time to discuss about that… and I was only speaking of that motors up to those diameters used by the common brands and no gear…
@SoEFoil …Don´t think it will be available for DIY soon 
You are right, it’s 12 poles, my mistake (don’t know why I said 10 when I knew it was 12…).
Do you know the motor diameter ?
not sure I would want to spend the 5k for one of these if the parts aren’t readily available and/or I was going to get gouged on replacements.
Today we continue our endless Jetboard Testing tour and visit Aveiro, a beautiful town north of Portugal to meet Pedro Frazão from @usha_emotion - one of the first dealers of Waydoo Flyer ONE efoil in Portugal.
Powered by a robust propulsion system, Waydoo Flyer ONE gives you the ultimate water experience. You can ride anytime and anywhere. Ride on oceans, lakes, rivers to experience the sensation of flying above water.
Our First impressions
(HONEST UNBIASED REVIEW BY MIKE)
PROS:
- Plug&Play design. Waydoo Flyer ONE is the world’s first cordless electric hydrofoil. The cutting-edge integrated module design enables a super easy and hassle-free set-up. Other efoils are still using cables.
- Affordable price (Almost 2 times cheaper compared to high-end market leading efoils Fliteboard and Liftfoils)
- Waydoo Flyer ONE is extremely lightweight - made of EPA Foam + Aluminum Alloy Frame. Total weight 28 kg including 12 kg battery.
- Backed by DJI drone company (Made in China), funded on Kickstarter.
- The company listens to the users’ feedback and improves the product. For example the bag was improved, the board became much smaller compared to the old version etc. It’s a good sign of progress.
CONS
- A very noisy, big and inefficient motor with a HUGE propeller makes the efoiling a very noisy experience (comparing to other efoils)
- Great for beginners and casual riders but PPO efoilers may find max speeds of just 25 mph unsatisfying.
Waydoo offers another pro-model called Waydoo Flyer made with carbon fiber and a maximum speed of up to 28mph provided by a robust 7500W motor. - Shorter riding time compared to other top class efoils. (1 hour vs 1.5 hour). The riding time depends on the winds and the rider weight.
- The screen of the remote control is hard to read during the sunny days and must be improved.
The bottom line - Waydoo Flyer ONE is a great affordable entry-level efoil that will help a lot of people quickly get into the sports of electric hydrofoils and experience the sensation of flying above the water. However if you are a PRO rider looking for maximum performance and high speeds, this board is not for you. We can compare BWM and Kia. Both cars will drive you well from point A to point B but the experience and comfort will be different. Each efoil price level will find its own buyer and there is room for everyone. A rising tide lifts all boats and the more people get into the new exciting sport of efoiling, the better!
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Apparently Waydoo has improved their ESC to address top speed issues (as well as noise) according to this FB comment.
Can anyone illuminate me on what “FOC” means?
Field Oriented Control… a sinusoidal phase signalling that helps smooth power delivery to BLDC motors. It has an effect on torque delivery (through greater efficiency) and on noise. I thought it was mainly effective at low RPMs though. I might be wrong.
Edit: sorry, it’s just more noticeable at low rpms. It’s also much more taxing on ESCs at high (e)rpms and leads to a slightly lower top speed. For that reason, many ESCs switch from FOC back to BLDC at a particular erpm threshold.
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That was one of of the main CONs noticed by first timers. That should be solved.
The question now is: how to switch to FOC mode when your efoil is part of the 300 pieces that have left China in September 2020 ? Do you have a plug and play routine to run from from your phone via a bluetooth application ?
If DJI is involved with this you probably have an app on the phone to start the foil.
Probably also have an app thats recording every single picture and voice note too to their own Chinese servers, just like they got caught doing with their drone apps 
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I believe it’s a hardware change. Perhaps Waydoo will offer a swap/replacement program/warranty to early-adopters? Not sure if entire mast assembly would need to be replaced but it is one unit.