Does anyone know which motor is used in this takeoff product? Looks like a smaller waterproof inrunner.
https://www.shop.mantafoils.com/takeoff/parts-accessories-takeoff/takeoff-performance-motor/
6384, it is supposed to be the same upgrade as the Foil Drive high power motor so could be a Saite.
They started with a variant of the flipsky 6384, but they have now got an inrunner too. Not sure who makes the new motor.
I’d like to know where they’re getting it from. A small light powerful inrunner with a quality manta propellor would make for a good dual motor tow boogie. I’m not a fan of the maintenance that’ll be required with a 6384 in salt water.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure they started with the same as Foil Drive using a 6374 motor.
I used to follow the Facebook pages for both, and someone who uses both put a FD high power motor on his MF Takeoff before their new motor was announced.
Logically, he wouldn’t have done it if was the same motor, although he did say it didn’t make much of a difference, so it could be the same. The question then is if it was a 6384, what have they upgraded to.
Also, since the FD motor fitted, FD and MF are both using Saite motors.
The ‘35kg of thrust’ is around the same as someone on the FD page who tested their setup.
They very possible did start with a 6374. But thats still capable of 3kw anyway.
You can technically interchange the saite and flipsky motors without reprogramming the vesc. They have similar setups. I actually have a 6374 FD motor running a 6384 generic rotor because i didnt want to buy FD rotor.
I’m aware of how VESCs work and have changed from a 6374 to 6384. My comment didn’t relate to that at all, and I agree about similar capable thrust and was going to comment that with the claim from Manta Foils about the thrust means nothing.
My comment related to what model of motor they use.
Foil Drive shadow banned me on Facebook, I couldn’t see or make comments, because I mentioned motor types and models. Manta Foils also don’t mention models.
They are both dishonest by trying to be secretive. I purchased a used FD high power motor so it would attach easily to my setup, and the box it came in had no technical information.
I have also established the FD Assist 8s batteries aren’t 12.6 ah, but only around 10.5 ah, and this is from 3 of different age.
They not being dishonest, they are protecting their business. Does a car manufacturer tell you which factory your components come from? The biggest issue with FD is they are breaking anti-competitive laws by forcing sales of things like their battery grease or otherwise their warranty is invalid etc. Their reps also do that for other parts of the system like props and mast pods.
They don’t need to provide any specs on their motor. Its a super simple measurement with a VESC and you’d have everything you need.
Their older batteries use Molicell P42 in 11S3P, so do the maths. After time you’ll lose capacity so you wont measure that anyway. If they got caught using the wrong cells they’d get in to way more trouble.
These are the 8s batteries, they definitely are less than 12.6 ah, I’m not arguing with you, you believe what you want. Don’t reply if you aren’t interested and I’ll continue this with someone who is.
Nobody is going to challenge this because nobody who buys a Foil Drive product tests it.
Weird attitude…
Open the pack and check what cells are in it. That’s the simplest way to prove anything. Other than that, you’re just speculating…
What are you doing to measure and say they are less than 12.6Ah?
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no, others have quite less thrust than the new perf motor. can’t say much but if you measure in a test bench its quite a difference…
the performance motor is a new proprietary design, not something you can get off the shelves. we worked a year to get it right. can’t say much more obviously.
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Thanks for the reply, good to hear that you’re innovating. What’s the approximate motor weight? It could make for a good single motor tow boogie, if you sold a fixed blade propeller to suit it.
its quite easy to make the propeller fixed with a small plate at its back to prevent it from folding… surely any DIY person can make the plate