Battery design. What size for 12s?

Yeah thats why I was asking New Idea!!! (I dont want to go 50 just as near as possible)
My new idea is FR engine kit Gong Veloce m Wing 14s14p Battery and I am 63kg

(Do you now a fast Build with geard setup would be interested?)

regards IN

Not sure sorry, I am not interested in high speed on water. falling off at around 50 it would feel the same as jumping out of a car doing 50. I stacked water skiing @ 30 knots it hurt ! almost broke my back.

You got my interest up so i looked, .The info is on the forum What’s your top speed? - Builds - FOIL.zone

Thanks for that post link that is exactly what I was looking for !!!

Anyone have a lead on a decent size injection molded battery box. Working on a second build. Injection molded instead of custom built will have the cleanest look. Assuming I can find the right size; battery configuration and hatch size will be determined by the box. Current plan is to have electronics in one waterproofed box and battery in another (waterproofing to be achieved by sealants. Silicone or 4200 to cut down on the bulkiness of commercial waterproof boxes). All inside a waterproof hatch for redundancy, which I assume is what commercial boards are doing? As a reference I’ve been looking at the lift battery pack made by lithos.

Regards,
TJ

Buy the Battery from Lift.
It’s only 3500 :joy: :sob: :sob:.

Thank you so much @Alexandre, that’s what I wanted, this formula !
Regarding the design I’ll go to make 2 x 6s16p but I want to be able to seal the case and don’t have to touch them/ connect them together. So how can I charge them with one or two 6s charger ? Do I have to install a switch between the two batteries and use it when I charge them separately ?

battery

And last question, do I really need a switch ?
Thank you again !

Cheers

Hey,
I’ve been looking after this and here is the big problem : when considering injection molding there are tooling cost needed for the mold. Those are pretty high, around 5k$ I think or more depending on the design.

I have designed a custom battery case that fits 14S14P but can also be used for 12S. Actually if more than 10-20 members where interested we can publicly ask for a quote (no profit) and make a group buy. Problem is that I have no idea if people are interested or are willing to group buy it (case is made of : main part where you put the battery, external IP68 connector for up to 16 wires signal - might be used for external BMS charge or CAN bus communication, aluminium engraved top plate, Oring fitted for the case, screws, removable power plug (customizable according to current consumption) and IP68 too, degas valve on the bottom side. Case is 82 mm height too :wink:

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Thanks for the feedback but coordinating a group and manufacture adds a degree of complication I’m not looking for. If it comes down to it I’ll build one. I figure there is something out there that can be adapted for our use. It’s a matter of finding it, so far I’ve had no luck.

Not sure if it help but this the box I 3d prtined and glassed it. For beter thermal perfomance I embedded ALU shet under the cells, isolated with 3mm thermal silicone pads

BMS is custom made and uses the same charger that comes with lift with all the advanced features and Industry standards protections
I think I can share the box I just need to ask the friend who helped designing the box


It is 14s14p lg hg2 cells.

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Please tell us more here or on a dedicated thread: “How to 3D print a battery case” :wink:
Which dimensions is this one by the way ?

For 12S14P, 13S13P, 14S12P batteries:
https://mantafoils.ecwid.com/#!/Battery-casing-casing-only/p/179562265/category=46477661

You have more details here:

You can PM me if needed. Have 14s12p in stock as we speak and empty casing also.

Did you break the ground pin on both units cables?

I have bought theese two as well, did you just solder and connect left big pad to right big pad on the second unit?

Is there a way to avoid making the case positive?

I also wonder, is it not enough to drive the icharger with just 12V? Specially here in Sweden i can hook the transformer up with 230V and use it’s full potential?

/Markus

Just need to break one
Look at specification of the icharger input current
Input max current x input voltage (12v in your case ) = output current x output voltage (6s : 25,2v for exemple)

So if the input current= output current , you will use 1/2 of the potential

Icharger X8 have 35A max input current, so 35x12 = 420 Watt

I want to charge a 7S 420/29,4V = 14,3A (Charge Amp, half potential)

So if i have 24V input 35x24 = 840W
840/29,4 = 28,6 A (Allmost full potential charge rate)

Am i correct?

Yes minus some heat lost and if you can get 35a out of your 12v supply

Thank you!

They are the same as flightjunkie used 100A :slight_smile:

Hello,

Is there a link or video that you followed to modify the Server power supply?

I may use a single 1000 watt HP power supply (HP 379123-001) to start with. Just looking for a bit more detail on how to get the power supply to function with an RC charger.

Or is it really as simple as connecting the first tab to the 4th tab? (As shown in the photo)

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If you want to connect two in series to get 24V, you need to separate ground from earth on the second psu, see here: HP DPS-1200FB Power Supply Hack for charging LiPos (12 V / 24 V)

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Depending psu type (for correct pins) yes it is a simple as this , did that on mine , no resistor , work fine so far

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