DIY faux Drive Assist (12S setup)

Hello everyone
I come to you because this great forum was recommended to me. I found great info and tried to sum it up here. I am a complete beginner so if this parts list sees wrong, could you please tell me ?

DIY faux Drive Assist (12S setup):*


Flipsky Parts

  • Flipsky 6384 Waterproof Brushless Motor (140KV)
  • Flipsky FSESC 6.6 (VESC-based ESC)
  • Flipsky VX3 Waterproof Remote
  • Flipsky 4.8-Inch Folding 2-Blade Propeller
  • XT90-S or QS8 Anti-Spark Connectors
  • Waterproof Enclosure Box (Flipsky or generic)

Non-Flipsky Parts

  • 12S Li-ion Battery Pack (e.g., 12S3P or 12S4P, 44.4V, 10–16Ah)
  • Smart BMS (included with most battery packs)
  • 8 AWG or 10 AWG High-Amp Silicone Wire
  • Heat Shrink Tubing (various sizes)
  • Waterproof Cable Glands or Feedthroughs
  • Marine-grade Switch or Kill Switch (optional for safety)
  • Motor Mount (CNC or 3D printed, compatible with foil mast)
  • Marine Sealant (e.g., 3M 5200) for waterproofing box entries
  • Charger (compatible with 12S Li-ion battery, ~50.4V output)
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I did more research and estimate for approximately 1 hour ride time the need for a 20ah battery

Not an expert, but this is pretty much exactly what I’d go for. I built a tow boogie with the same motor, and here are some thoughts:

Get a decent soldering iron and accessories, and a wooden jig, as soldering with a bad setup is very difficult. Try to get pre-soldered parts wherever possible. I’ve gone 12AWG on most of my wiring with the same setup, and it has been fine, soldering 8AWG looks tedious, but probably worthwhile. I’ve used Quick Solder Connectors for anything other than battery and phase wires, they are really easy and fast.

I guess you’ll likely also need some way of cooling the setup, I am doing a passive heat sink cut through the side, but I don’t know how well that will work for your faux drive. Without it after about an hour my 6384 at 12S with 2 blade is up towards 100c or more. You can probably just add this later.

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Thanks a lot,

I updated the parts list and put the prices with it

Flipsky Parts:

  • Flipsky 6384 Waterproof Brushless Motor (140KV) with prop - 151 €
  • Flipsky FSESC 6.6 (VESC-based ESC) - 85 €
  • Flipsky VX3 Waterproof Remote - 105 €
  • Flipsky 4.8-Inch Folding 2-Blade Propeller
  • XT90-S connectors - 9 €

Non-Flipsky Parts:

  • Waterproof case to order last - 50 €
  • 12S 20ah Li-ion Battery Pack (e.g., 12S3P or 12S4P, 44.4V) - 300 €
  • 8 AWG or 10 AWG High-Amp Silicone Wire (6mm² or 8mm²) - 20 €
  • Heat Shrink Tubing (various sizes) - 10 €
  • Waterproof Cable Glands or Feedthroughs - 10 €
  • Quick solder connectors - 20 €
  • Marine-grade Switch or Kill Switch
  • Motor Mount (CNC or 3D printed, compatible with foil mast) - 20 €
  • Marine Sealant (e.g., 3M 5200) for waterproofing box entries - 40 €
  • Charger (compatible with 12S Li-ion battery, ~50.4V output) - 40 €

Total (excluding shipping and tools): 860 €

Tools:

  • Welder 150w - 30 €
  • 3D printer (used) - 50 €
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Hi, man I am working on my list too, will share it in the next week. Waiting for the second reply from Saite to see in which configurations they have waterproofed 6384.

I have a couple of questions is there any particular reason why you went with FSESC 6.6 and not the newer one:

Also did you talked to them about the option of getting the motor with AWG 10 leads instead of 12 they have specified on the website. The guy from the sales team told me yesterday that could be an option

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Hello,

For the version6.6 : No reason aside this was the most recommended on foil.zone. I am not sure sure it is still sold. I might go with the 6.8.

For the cable gauge : thanks for the tip I will certainly ask for the thicker wire.

Effectively the time to answer emails is a little long. I asked them for the wiring diagram.

I will most likely be calling them tomorrow morning with a help of Chinese speaking friend. I’ll try to ask as much as I can also diagram for you (if they can provide)

Also I am now evaluating this topic:

…After a suggestion from the community user on my build post

… I also not sure anymore if 12S is a good idea considering it can peak up 50+ V which can be lethal if :poop: hits the fun. Foil Drive is using 11S (you can go to their website and find max battery it has specs printed right on top of it), so I am debating whether to stay with the 10S-11S range.

I currently have FD Gen2 HP motor (6384) and at 70kg can flatwater start 27l 4’4 18* board relatively easy with 12 AR 1000 cm foil (even at ~15% battery). And if there is a mini wave it takes 2-3s even without a boost mode. So I guess loosing 10% of power output would really not be such a problem for most of the people.

But at least on paper the V range output 10S 36-42 V or 11S 40-46 V is still below 50V, after all, we want to have fun and stay safe out there :pray:

Thanks a lot
How did the call go?

@volna
Sorry for the potential silly question. But why would you like to reduce from 12 down to 10?

I am new to building one myself. Mast integrated FD motor with a Flipsky FSESC 6.7 pro and 11s3p batteries for reasons mentioned.

Cheers from New Zealand
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In short the AWG numbers go in reverse, the smaller = bigger:

P.S: I am also super new to this, being collecting info for couple of last weeks :blush:

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Didn’t happen today, will probably try tomorrow, I’ll share info as soon as something will be available

Thanks. I am originally from Germany. We use mm² not AWG. Thanks for the hint.

Yes, same here…lot of reading/learning going on…

All good, I am from EU too, so having anything when it comes to measuring units in non-metric system is … :exploding_head::rofl:

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Are you planning to make your own battery 11S3P or have you found a place where it’s possible to order?

Making my own batteries. Bought a kweld. Let’s see if it ends up in a mess or the prop will spin at the end of the day :joy:
Watched heaps of videos. She’ll be alright :call_me_hand:

I see, “German blood” talking inside:

  • I can do it myself! … :muscle: (respect)

… good luck, I would maybe do some on the future builds, but would start looking for some people in the EU that already build them for some time. If you happen to know someone, please share the contact info :smiling_face:

check out this dude. He is German, also in this forum I think

I think you’d agree, it doesn’t look like rocket science :slight_smile: Be careful, step after step…and everything will be fine :slight_smile:
Whereabouts are you located?

Thank you man, I am currently located in Spain :blush:
Btw have you looked into epoxy waterproofing the battery like FD does?

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Alright got some answers, few of them are still on the way. Got busy yesterday and couldn’t fully finish the conversation.

TL;DR for you, the wiring diagram comes included with the board.
Here is also a current list of questions I am collecting:

After all, to talk to them I’ve managed by myself by:

  1. Creating a WeChat account
  2. Sending them a DM to add me to WeChat via the website chat window (added me the next day)
  3. Use ChatGPT to translate from English to Chinese and vice versa (suddenly the reply time got less than ~1h, instead of 1 week :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:)
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