all the XL 's are not available I would like you get a Alvator pro XL
For an efoil (I am your size) I think that would work if you want to go fast. I use it for surf foil and I can hold it in the water on waist high waves that used to throw me off on my Rise XL. So Iād say at your size you keep it in the water at a pretty good speed.
It will lift me with a knee high wave with some push, but just barely. Very responsive wing.
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Would curve L or Lt be better for a rider 83 kg + efoil weight?
Man, Iād say go bigger. The Curve XL is loved by the wind wing guys. Not sure of your speed but Iād think bigger is better since your board is going to weight quite a bit.
They have charts on their product pages that list weight ranges and speeds.
I have a the exact opposite opinion than @Surfcowboy 
Go small. I used to learn on Rise L. Now I foil with Pro/curve M, which is much more fun. Also I tried Rise XL which feels like foiling an aircraft carrier.
You donāt want to exceed curve L. Try MT or M.
Btw: I have efoil with batt around 25kg. I am around 93kg. Motor Flipsky 120kv with 6" rodeo. For start I need quite some amp but just for couple of secs
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Iāll take it! Iām speaking from more surf and wing experience. You motorized guys have the power.
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Can someone help me chose a gong foil? I am 70kg and have surf experience. It seems like low TCR and high aspect ratio is the way to go so I was thinking of getting either:
- Veloce M
- Veloce L
- Curve/Pro MT
For stabs I was thinking:
- Veloce 43cm
- Kite Pro 40cm
I will probably buy a Rise XL as well for learning on or for others to use the board, since the Rise series is so cheap and itās easy to change foils. Any advice would be much appreciated.
I have rise xl and curve M.
I would never buy The rise xl again, i think it is very hard to control. I regrett i did not buy The L or M rise for my first foil.
I love my curve M for Both surfing and efoiling.
I think Rise xl is harder to foil on compare to curve M. It is so slow and makes it hard to control and surf on.
That is my personal experience anyway. Would love to try The veloce and compare it with the curve.
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I have the Gong m Veloce with normal 40cm stab. If we get to meet this summer you can try it. I will probably sell it, only tried it 3kms.
I was not very impressed with stability, but strangely the lift was more than enough for my 100kgs, it is 1000cm2 after all. I would rather recommend a wider 80cm wing in same area span. Axis and Armstrong have bunch, but itās not for us poor DIYers.
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Sure, let me know if you want to sell it.
I think i read on The forum that someone else also tried The veloce wing with the standard stab and it was terrible and that you really need to have the veloce stab for it to work good.
Once you go curve/pro M, you never go back
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Hey, are you prone foiling or using the M on an efoil? I own the Curve M as well and did like it for SUP but Iāve been learning to wing on my Rise and havenāt moved down foil-wise with the wing yet. Also own an LT.
Anyone selling a Curve XL in the US? I think thatās my next wing foil wing.
Iām considering getting the allvator rise for my first build (because itās cheaper). Would you recommend the medium or large foil? I am about 65kg (the upper limit for their advertised weight scale). I have seen some people say the larger wing gets better battery life while the smaller wing gets higher speeds. To what extent is this true with these types of wings?
I have exactly the same experience. The rise xl wing moves like a truck. You have to start turning one second before you knew you wanted toā¦
I have only The alvator xl, curve M and curve MT.
If I would but a rise M or L, I would probably go on M if I was you. I am similar weight as you.
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You are very low weight. Go for curve M. I weigh around 95 and still can go with M. However I prefer curve MT to have earlier take off. Well efficiency of the wing is more due to its thickness and shape (veloce vs rise) and not too much on the size. With your weight your setup will not be to thirsty. Go for small wing itās more fun to ride.
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Speed depends, I think in most cases itās more related to prop / battery setup. If you design on speed (high kV, high pitch, 14-16S) there will be some significant difference in top speed. But in my tests a āregularā 12S setup with 120kv and 6" prop will max speed no matter if rise or veloce since the motor has spare power. But veloce setup will be more efficient at same speed, maybe not faster
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Thank you! This really helped me make my final decision.
This really helped me make my final decision, thank you.