XXL tow boogie/SIB e-boat (65161 14S12P servo-motor steering)

Thinking about implementing this kind of extra safety, the system is not as safe as some lighter weigh boogie due to the size and weight of the craft, plus the stability that comes with the size…

Received the insta 360 X5 I ordered as a discount on ali, I will mount it on the boat.
First test of the cam, great quality, screen, huge step up since last time I owned a 360 cam.

Made a mount to install it on the boat, with a older high quality benro monopod. Two of those clamps will be installed on the battery box, and the monopod used as a stick will screw into the bottom clamp. Camera a and mandatory orange towing flag on top

Received cell holders and nickel if I get motivation to make a battery or samples of EVE 50PL or 58E to test

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Boat is in the water as much as I can.
Remote and cooling are the main topics to solve.

Tried to start on tow with my wife and kid in the boat, it was close but not quite enough power.

Used the boat to do the upwind, then did some pump downwind (maybe 3-5kt wind)
my pump game is stuck at 500 meters/ 2 min - 2min30.

I need to practice slowing down, the same gear does 12 minutes with a friend, in great shape but not superhuman as some other guys.

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Some occupation for next evenings!

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Remote is mounted and configured, took me quite some time to prepare everything. I made a mess with the ribbon câble and the potting, but all seems to work.
The trigger is still sticky and will not return to zéro well.

Did not add the gps in the remote, when the project has advanced I will make another remote if needed.

I also wired the watercooling system, I will see if Dynamic pressure is enough. The tubes are quite small but the water block is nice and the exact size of the controller. I removed the base heatsink. Heatsink and controller are just super glued together at the moment, with leftover paste in the middle.

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Here is a some fin extract from today session, but the servo motor failed.

Here is how the servo motor looks like, it is well burned. I checked the video but could not see why it failed, the rope did not seems to be stuck on the engine causing over torque. It was very hot day, and the watercooling only works above 15kph. It failed after I was trying to take off with the 1050cm2 foil for 15 minutes, so probably a lot of heat.

I need to replace all spacers by alu ones to transfer heat also to the bottom plate, and maybe also reduce the pivot friction.


New servo is ordered, but boat will be out of commission for a little while.

The bremote worked well, good signal and trigger precision compared to DS-600 in a bag :joy:
Range seems similar (stock bremote power settings)

Longer session video, love the 360 cam, set and forget. Battery and process ing power of the x5 cam is Impressive.

Is the steering necessary? I guess it is convenient, but I wonder if you had a pole tow point if you’d miss it that much

I think so, I use it a lot to replace in the water after a fall, and avoiding the traffic efficiently. I can do quite sharp truns with me in the water with the rope in hand, with the river currents and winds it would be very complicated to handle without direction control.

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So. What motor did you end up using?

just normal 65162 direct drive with flite prop

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Made some mounting upgrades while I want for the replacement servo

Installed the water block with thermal paste this time, and clamped the bottom PCB to the top plate.

Will try to do something better for the rx.

The broken servo was refunded by Aliexpress, but I have to find put how to cool it for the future.

Based on last rides, I will reduce the travel of the servo, or add expo to the steering control.

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Is the vesc just clamped down with pieces of PCB?

I’m looking to do something similar with the same vesc but was thinking of re using those little L brackets that it’s mounted with in the original housing.

Also are you treating the other parts of the vesc PCB as it’s some lacquer or something?

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Yes I tried to use those brakets, but did not have the correct screws and tap, so used 3mm thick G10/FR4 fiberglass parts and M4 screws. First I had it mounted with alu parts, but I was in fear of shorts to vcc and gnd.

I will probably mount a pump to extract more heat out even at low speed. I am not sure if some kind of ram/ cone would help to increase pressure and circulation at low speed for a pure Dynamic pressure style of cooling loop?

This is my experience with no pump water cooling. Your power demands are likely quite a bit more than my use case however.

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My tubing is smaller, with OD of 6mm and ID around 4-4.5mm.

On my tests It needed around 15kph to get flow.
The existing water block fitting are not suited to larger tubes unfortunately.

So with load or low speed for longer, it gets into a state where there is no flow, and everything is too hot to get full power needed to get to speed needed to water cool.

It does not really happen for tow foiling, but with more than one person aboard.

Is there a possibility of your tubing collapsing a bit - mine was quite stiff - bendable but would crimp and not come back if you bent it too far?

Regarding water cooling, I have enlarged the opening, and checked for kinks, It works perfect above 10-12kph but not below. It removes a lot of heat and at 4500W the ESC stays cool.

I have checked with the laptop what happens under full load, with the two balde 6x7 during a family ride day.

The prop is too small and does not fully load the motor, top speed was only 14kph alone in the boat.

I wanted to do the same test with the flite prop, but I was already low in battery.
The system is setup at 300A phase and 175A battery, and I could see no other limitations than the prop based on the settings and duty cycle.


Nice and fun boat ride, towing my wife on the paddle, enjoy the lake with the tiller installed while I wait for the servo replacement, but still burned 3kwh of battery just cruising along at 8kph.


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The tow is back in action, and I could test it this morning during proper parenting time :joy:

Added a fan to prevent burning the servo

Then decided to go on a test back with the flite prop, without checking the forecast first :melting_face:


After the storm short test ride, flite prop is better suited to my system, but I think I still need a bigger prop to get max power out of the system (battery can handle 150A continuous = 12.5A per cell, <3C)


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Good session today under rhe thunderstorm

Boat works well :grinning:

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First session in a while, I forgot all pop up techique :melting_face::sweat_smile:

Sucess rate with the barracuda xl went from 90% down to 5%

Main issue is throttle modulation when I need to transition to feet. I need to work on my sinker starts…

At the end of the session, the servo motor failed, nothing serious but still anoying and dangerous.

I tested on 16s10p p28 pack, it is quite a bit more power, I could tow a second foiler with me in the boat.

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