BREmote - Future Development Topic

[okp]

I always host my electronics ESC, RX in simple 3D printed boxes and put MagicGel. So it’s a personal take

[S_Roger]

Nice, I like the idea of it being removable and soft. I’m about to pour some in my esc box on my almost completed project

[okp]

yes, the stack option is great but I wanted a more flat setup to fit my existing box replacing the v1 RX.

[ludwig_bre]

@okp

I’ve had the honor to start beta testing the new jewel from Ludwig.

The honor is on my side, having such a talented foiler test the remote

So here a short update on the V2:
As you can see, the first beta units have been sent to the testers and are in use as we speak. Thanks to the detailed feedback I could already make some more improvements to the code and get a good feeling for the maturity of hardware and overall design.

I have also compiled a short clip, showcasing the first 2 uses of the remote:

1. A professional foil teacher located in the north of Germany. His main use case is to control a tow boogie from land over long distances, in order to teach his students. His favorite points were the very fine steering as well as long and stable connection.
2. The one and only OKP himself. In his boogie, the remote controls 2x “classical” ESC. Check out his post above for all details.

My short video can be found here:

BREmote V2 Beta Clips (BREmote V2 Build Log #4)

Next steps:
I am currently planning the kits together with Jasmin from openfoil as well as preparing all the files for the remote and instructions for assembly and configuration. Jasmin will post details on how and when to pre-order soon.
I will also prepare more beta kits as soon as I can find the time and contact the next beta testers as soon as possible.

[ludwig_bre]

GPS works

BREmote V2 Build Log #5

[ludwig_bre]

I have released the project to github!
Thank you to everyone contributing in this post!
All project-related questions can now be put under the new topic:

BREmote V2 - open source remote

In February 2023 I shared my “little” project with you: The BREmote (V1) What started small, as a side project, found great interest in the community - way more than I expected. 2 years have gone by since then. Among many other things, this project has helped me gain a lot of experience in DIY open source projects and design for small mass production runs. And on top of that I met lots of people and made many friendships. I want to take this opportunity to say THANK YOU! To everyone who su…

[ludwig_bre]

With the V2 released, I had some time to work on the Nano version
See the update here:

BREmote V2 Nano Build Log #6

Also for this version, a few beta testers were selected and I will contact them soon.

[baein]

I had some “crazy” ideas that I wanted to test out for the remote as I personally didn’t love the exposed trigger so I just made a little “prototype” that I would want to try and also see how it fits irl.

ps. this is just a rough draft of my idea how it could look, would love input from you all

[ludwig_bre]

Looks interesting
Just make sure not to use any metal hardware around the top front edge of the remote for maximum range (that’s where the antenna sits)

[Foilguy]

I believe that @rttn made a pistol grip handle already.

[rttn]

Here’s my opinion: this is completely unusable. There is no room for the index finger, let alone the finger in gloves. There is no point in covering the entire hand, you only need to cover the trigger. If you use an M-16 style grip, then look at the Magpul trigger guard - it is a model of excellent ergonomics.

[baein]

Oh thats nice might steal his design then

[rttn]

I like this version much more. And it is definitely safer and more ergonomic. I think I will wait for the release and buy it.

[baein]

Well the reason for this design is for three reasons:

1. So you can plant your hand with the remote when preparing to stand up.

2. So it has 0 resemblance to an actual pistol.

3. To guard the trigger.

This was just a rough draft of how it might look and I will print everything and see how I will adjust it when I have the base model in hand

[baein]

I second that if I haven’t ordered the other model already I might’ve gone with the nano aswell

[mterea]

I’ve been thinking of a design works one-handed for tow boogie. You see people holding the remote and rope in one hand, it is quite awkward.

I think there is a place for the remote to stow into the tow handle, and then you pop it out when you drop the rope.

I made something like the below for tow boogie out of angle iron, it worked well, but extremely crude. Pushes the brake and engages cruise control so I don’t recommend, but as a POC it is pretty good.

Something to add to the mix of rough draft ideas

[KalleP]

When I have held both remote and rope in same hand I have noticed it is much harder to finely tune the speec than without. Specifically while starting when more force is required to hold the rope. Maybe it is easy to learn but I would try to use the thumb to control speed and let the other four fingers hold the rope.

[rttn]

In all my time riding I have never had the need to hold the rope and the remote in one hand. Why do that?

[mterea]

Goofy foot riders seem to do it naturally, I don’t know why, but look at the examples on youtube. I guess the throttle modulation is better with dominant hand (commonly right), and it is also more ergonomic to hold with leading hand (right for goofy)

Maybe advanced riding with sinker board makes it necessary.

[seagull_nz]

Yea agree with this. He mentioned in another video he needs a spare hand to place on the board to get up from belly position once planing in his 30L board, much easier for goofy foot riders.