Flipsky 65220 motor

Good morning, does anyone have a reliable VESC setup for the flipsky 65220 motor with 48v 40ah battery (tenpower 40XG) I would like something quiet without too many hitches and with a killswitch in ppm or uard.

Huh? The 65220 already has a VESC built-in, do you perhaps mean the 65161?

Hi, yes it has an integrated ESC, but it always has a VESC configuration, I wanted some advice on the parameters to use in the initial setup.

What i can tell you is that do not update the FW but keep the same one as it is. I noticed far superior performance with it than with the latest fw. Seems like Flipsky is doing something behind it that we can not see, be it for better.

120A motor current and 160 max absolute works. Beside that i did not change anythinbg else. Of course im running FOC and did the measurments. At the FOC measurments be ready that one of the calculations will stay at 0 and wont be calculated - thats fine. The motor is extremely quiet and smooth.

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Ok thanks, as for the kill switch? Do you have any advice for me? I’m installing a switch like the ones on boats with a cable.

Im using Daly blue BMS as a kill switch via Key control. I believe a kill switch is not needed anyway. I never used it :slight_smile:

Great idea, I’d be less crazy. I have a JK BMS, maybe I could connect the normally closed kill switch to the ignition button terminals.

Using a kill swtich on the BMS can potentially damage the VESC. Why would you want a kill switch? Neither lift, waydoo or flite has it…

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Correct yes, its more of an ON/OFF switch when no current is flowing. And even that is not necessary.

Another two batteries drained and the combo is holding up well. Seems like it is also very efficient and capable of staying at 120A Motor max and 160A absolute max.

The picture is taken mid drive after driving on low end of throttle to test the efficiency. The speed is incorrect.

Woah, 47 kmh at 3300W, thats very impressive. Was this with the Curve XL? Impressive. I also saw you doing almost 50kmh some posts back in this thread? That is very fast on 14S. What kind of prop are you using?

Nono, the speed is incorrect on VX5. I used Strava and it says 38kmh but i was not pushing it. …im using Curve xxl.

Woah. Im surprised your VX5 is off, the GPS should be really accurae. Atleast, from what they claim, and from what I experienced myself. Im using Yours Truly combined with the VX5 and the speed is always matching on both sides, maybe 0.5kmh difference, but 10kmh is defintely a massive difference. Any idea why there is such a big difference?

No really, but you got me thinking why is that yes. Ill write to Flipsky.

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It’s pretty much the same for all these devices.
For max speed, it matters what time frame they take as a reference.

You have the inaccuracy in GPS protocol and also simply the fact that the remote is not static.
For example if you crash, your remote has a way to add a nice speed spike.

People love to see huge numbers and the companies want to make their customers happy, so they often only take a 1s interval or something like that.

To get any meaningful data you need something like 50m average, so 5s to 10s.

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Anything (like an iPhone or Android phone) updating GPS at 1Hz (1 second) will never ever be accurate for speed measurement.

Why would a smat phone not be accurate? If you take a drive in A car and compare I find its same. I would trust a new phone or smartwatch over the controllers for accuracy.

The vx3 I have reports a higher speed than the vx5 my friend has as we have ridden side by side to compare.

Riding at 40kmh+ on a curve xl is fast. I have that wing too and prefer the L for even 30+

Because a smartphone GPS usually gives you only one position update per second (1 Hz).

At high speed, that becomes a problem.

Example: At 40 km/h you travel about 11 meters per second, so the phone only knows your position every +/-11 meters.

At 50 km/h, this increases to almost 14 meters.

This is fine if you ride at a constant speed, but on an eFoil we normally do not.

Hard acceleration / aggressive carving / GPS lag can briefly be 10+ km/h off!

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I typically ride at fairly steady speeds and no way my speed changes more than a small percent 1 second unless I crash :wink: Also at least on smartphones the readings are averaged to a degree and even use the accelerometer to imprve accuracy.

There is the surfr app for measuring jump height for kiteboarding on a regualr phone. That is way more demanding than simple speed measurent and it works well.

If you are using accelerometer to improve speed accuracy, you will be even way more off.
And highs are measured by using mainly the pressure sensor ( barometer), often assisted by GPS and the accelerometer/gyroscope ! That’s a completely different story!

Anyway. Back on topic. Flipsky 65220 motor.