Foil Drive Assist, DIY

The Plus model looks like this… > . Maytech

They have a motor reconditioning help videos which encourages you to remove the circlip and throw it away!

Did you have to waterproof the 6384 motor? I have a 65111 and would really like to use the propellor king folding prop but it does not look like they make one that’ll fit the 65111 shaft. I can not seem to find a link to contact them either. Any help would be appreciated.

Todd

Yes, 6384 needs to be waterproofed. This is an outrunner which basically runs “wet”.
Your 65111 is an inrunner that should be waterproof already.
@superlefax from propeller king is also in this forum and will be able to answer your question, just have some patience…

Thank you for the positive feedback Tosh!!

Todd

Hi All in the DIY Foil Drive assist group. My name is Todd and I have been attempting to DIY my own foil drive assist.

Here are the components I have and the outcomes; On a 55 litre board with Flipsky 65111 and Mini FSESC4.20 50A and a 12s3p battery 12s3p P42A Battery Pack | Transparent Series — MBoards I am getting only enough power to push me around the water but not even close to getting on foil. I do have the motor set at a “foil assist” height on the mast but still I should be able to get going faster. I will mention that the throttle control seems a bit off - when I programmed it the threshold response seemed FLAT (meaning it was either all on or off - not much in between. Hope that makes sense)



Anyhow if I could get some assistance as to what I may need to change that would be appreciated.

Here is my other thought - maybe use this enclosure and double up the batteries (wired in series?) to increase output and go with a bigger SUP style foilboard. What do you all think?

Which remote? It could be the level setting or calibration of the remote (or the current settings on the esc.)

Couldn’t it be that the 50A limit is too small? I think you should have a VESC that provides at least 100A

Yes, you’re right, have seen others have problems with this esc. Could be that too.


This one

Ok, it’s a VX3, this has Low-Medium-High levels which limit the throttle response.

hmmm. How do I adjust it?

There’s a video on the flipsky site, i can’t remember but it was a quick press on one of the buttons


This button, It will change from High, to Médium, to Low, and again to High

When you power on the VX3 the default “power mode” is H - it doesn’t store last setting.

This feature is useful for limiting power ramp up for teaching kids etc. Set it to L and they can’t go very fast. M goes almost top speed but takes longer to get there so makes learning to start a bit “smoother”.

That doesn’t sound like your problem as it will always be in H unless you intentionally change it.

You mentioned connecting two 12S batteries in series which would be more V (potentially 50V x2 = 100V ) than you would ever want and would likely damage your vesc.

I think it likely your vesc is either not capable enough or a setting for max A needs to be larger.

The prop I see is quite large and most advice here is to either cut it down or replace with something smaller and more efficient. That big a prop and a “underperforming” vesc AND a low volume board might be enough to stop you from getting enough speed to plane off the board. You don’t mention your weight which is sort of related to board volume at least in the beginning.

The remote goes to the high speed default ,every time you turn it on. the screen has H M L upper right of screen

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Hey Foilguy,

Thank you for the info and leads on next steps to remedy my design flaws. I weight a whopping 68kg.

What tool would you recommend to trim the prop with (grinder, dremel, cutting wheel?)

Also: confirmed that the controller does indeed default to “H” so I have a feeling that is not the issue. I think I will move the setup to my 80liter wing board, cut the props and see what I get. As well I will go through the VESC tool setup again to make sure I have configured it correctly.

Thanks again for any insights you may have.

Todd

Hello, Don’t think I’m an expert, I’ve only seen the 50A limit, a mistake that I also made. I think that reducing the propeller if you are not experienced can cause it to be unbalanced and cause problems when turning.

I weigh 98 kg and I think you should consider spending some money for a flipsky 75100, or something from maytech but at 100A.

With that you will fly for sure, some adjustments in the configuration from the software, but it will be like going from riding a donkey to riding a horse :slight_smile:

Thank you Klaus. Oh yes if I mess with the prop and it becomes unbalanced that will cause HUGE problems.

I will see what I can do to find a smaller prop that will fit. I originally 3D printed a folding one but I am only using PLA and it cracked right away.

I think I will find a company that will print one out of better material for me.

Thanks again for your input!!

Todd

It fits the carbon mast perfectly. It needs some padding out at the back of the axis aluminium mast.

Can anyone who has set this up, share which hardware they have used for the bolt and the retainers for the strap?

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